I tried playing my favorite chaos loadout this morning. My mark of slaanesh master crafted fist marine with a bolt pistol, warp crystal, and +2 stamina. My fist used to take a couple hits to take down an enemy. Two, sometimes three hits. I would generally open with a sprint attack followed by evade attacks. This morning I decided to finally pick my fist up in live for the first time since patch. My evade attacks barely take a third of enemy armor. All four evade attacks didn't get close to killing him. The fist doesn't always obey the rules of the RPS system, its fast attacks are slow enough to dodge between the time it starts and the time it strikes, its strong attack require extreme reading of incoming combat. Axes rely on landing their heavy attacks. Swords rely on their speed. Fists have very little to rely on now that sprint and evade attacks are gone. That being said, I can admit that Stamina should be mandatory gear for a fist user. Poll aside my suggestion would be to increase the damage of the fist's sprint attack. It currently sits at something around 78 damage, I would see that increased to somewhere around 100-120.
The core issue with the fist is still that it's a buggy mess of a weapon that only uses paper and rock in "Rock, paper, scissors."
I do agree that the sprint and evade attack nerf may have been a bit much from a technical stand point but based last night on my adventures it hasn't hindered me much. I use the light attacks and heavy attacks for the bulk of my work and add in some bolt pistol shots an d-bashes to mix it up alittle. I mainly use sprint attacks just for the lunge to close the gap.
that's not entirely true.. you have rock paper and scissors ... you can throw out a heavy attack and hold it. The opponent will clang off your body automatically at which point you can release the heavy attack and 1 shot a scrub if he didn't catch on quick enough and rolls out of the way or something. release to early or to late how ever and you end up shooting yourself in the foot... as holding it to short will result in a fast attack which can be Dashed . hold it too long and the guy will wize up to what ur up to and will either roll away or spam Fast Attack to counter your Heavy attack The opponent also can't really tell which attack you are using since Fast attack on the fist is basically half the Heavy attack animation. this is like the ONLY reason i actually still enjoy using he Pfists. it basically cheats at RPS.
