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Vengeance Storm Bolter TTK?

Discussion in 'Space Marines' started by Menace, Dec 12, 2016.

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Vengeance TTK too fast?

  1. Faster than it should be

  2. Meh

  3. No faster than normal SB

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  1. Whitefox550 Whitefox550 Well-Known Member

    Ta da!
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    Now to find out how long the dash stun duration is.

    SS are very different. They are like marines. But as above, it's probably the same as armoured light eldar, or base marines. Testing time.
  2. VexusH VexusH Recruit

    The damages of all three weapons are the same, right now you have the SB and Bolter at 34 damage when in actuality they're 38.

    I've said this about the Storm weapons/equivalents already, they're too accurate when ADS'd. There are rarely occasions where it's favorable to use a standard Bolter/equivalent.
  3. Xio Valency Xi0 Preacher

    The damage per shot is taking toughness into consideration I think hence why it does the full 38 per shot on the Vengeance Since it ignores all the toughness of non heavy gold armour for Eldar

    Meanwhile the normal bolt weapons still have that 30 toughness to get through
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  4. Whitefox550 Whitefox550 Well-Known Member

    What @Xi0 said, that's damage against target. So after you've calculated the toughness those are the actual numbers applied at close range (ie before damage falloff). Seeing as the difference of the Vengeance SB is in the penetration (affecting toughness) it seemed pertinent to make that information front and center.
  5. Menace Menace Arkhona Vanguard

    Jeez, I'm getting kinda sad looking at those TTKs, the bolter is just... bad
  6. So the difference between SB and VSB is between from 0.14 to 0.22 s, i wanna say that this seems fine if you count LP cost, and sure simple plain bolter should be used...
  7. Xio Valency Xi0 Preacher

    The problem is Tacs are the only capper class in the game I believe with a decent damage, high fire rate and high pen on a weapon, it literally made me quit Dire Avenger because my 400lp gold armour was negated by a 100lp upgrade on a weapon already good against the race.

    I'm sure when Ammo mods actually release it will stabilize a little or at least I hope.
  8. Galen Galen Arkhona Vanguard

    o_O
  9. Elemir Swiftblade Warriant Arkhona Vanguard

    I run with the gold armor on mine and I get absolutely shredded by them. Might as well just stand ther and stop shooting because theres no way you are winning unless they have potato aim.
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  10. Praeter Praeter Curator

    You're not taking range into account. Storm bolter kills faster at melee since it's easier to hit every shot (as it should be). The bolter has better accuracy at range, especially with the extended barrel. Personally I like the modded bolter as I can hit more headshots and less of my teammates in melee. Plus snipe those pesky ACs mounted on walls, which a Storm bolter can not.

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