1st question: Do you even use cover?
2nd question: Again, do you use cover?

If you play EC like CoD or BF, then yeah, expect to die a lot.

AND IT IS GLORIOUS, OUR TREACHERY BREAKS THE 4TH WALL AND INCURS THE WRATH OF GODS UNTOLD.

Edit: Going from playing nurgle to something like say, sorcerer my frustration levels increase 10fold until I feel my teeth sprouting teeth, yes I know how to survive when not a pulsing embodiment of those pimple popping videos on youtube, it's just a surefire way to die before I do anything effective.

I main a Raptor because I love being a glass cannon or a Traitor with a bolter, because the bolter is a great mix of accuracy, moderate damage, and magazine size.

While death certainly can come quick in this game:

1. It most certainly doesn't always. As I said I have at least a dozen engagements per match with a skilled enemy who gives me an entertaining fight.
2. This is a game with guns and magical space swords, it would feel really out of place for it to take so long to kill someone with such supposedly "powerful" weapons. Not to mentioned boring. Who wants to spam the attack keys ala World of Warcraft to have the equivalent of a virtual pillow fight where attacks feel impotent?
   
   I've never played Black Ops or Team Fortress, but I have played the Planetside games and Battlefield games and for a shooter game the TTK in this game is very high. Where you find no fun in "low" TTK, I find no fun the opposite.
   
   For every gamer, a game design opinion though.

^ who needs cover when we have plot armor!

Still I am weak since I enjoy the protection cover gives me to kill my enemies lol. So...yep cover is always great even if you are a super human in power armor against other super humans, mutants, aliens or horrors its always great to get a nice big ol object in the way to stop damage first.

About TTK it has to be a painstaking fine balance to walk considering melee needs a short TTK and ranged needs a medium one at least to score kills without people just ducking to cover or getting spam healed and then no one dies or at least fast enough in groups to push objectives. Being a dug in defender would be great but attacking would be super frustrating I think...still if the devs said it was easy to bump the TTK I would be all for testing it at least.

Funny enough I think I was just in a match with the another player named Rift who was understandably frustrated in our match and capslocking a similar campaign for TTK shortly after talking about Mark of Nurgle being our only high TTK class.



To be fair though the match had a core of talented, team oriented PG folk together shredding my team and I...Especially Duke in the screen below, that multi-melta in defense is insanely wicked and makes the TTK non-existent...even for me playing MoN so I can't imagine for the other classes (Well I can, I played Raptor a bit and I was dust in the wind lol) still we lost not because of TTK or the PG core group (Although they made it harder) but we were too timid to push the point together despite my PUG rallying call! lol




Here is the new anthem for those who really think the TTK is super short lol

Gods no, that's utterly ridiculous. What's everyone supposed to plink away at eachother with like 10 magazines?

It's more like saying you shouldn't decorate a cake before you bake it

Watch my Eternal Crusade videos in signature, OF COURSE I use cover.

I don't play EC like CoD or BF, because I fuggin hate those games. 1st question: Do you even read?

2nd question: Again, do you even read?

TTK is stupid in EC. Despite me occasionally going 25 kills 5 deaths....or despite me KNOWING WTF I am doing...I am not a stupid noob as your post implies. The TTK is much, much too short. To the point of being stupid and unenjoyable, whether I am the one killing OR dying.

If you want to use that comparison, it's more like not caring what the cake tastes like or what ingredients you use before you even bake it. Then tasting it after and going...whoa, this thing is disgusting, what did you put in this cake, man?

Both of you leave...cake....out of this!

But to the point, agree to disagree.

I think the TTK will be increased with the addition of accessories and upgrades. Think of the current values as a base comparison and an alpha comparison at that.