Get in a clan/guild or create your own then.With your own set of rules.Also a small tip no ammount of censorship will make your teammates good.
So, one person mentioned censorship, and I made a single paragraph about it. If that constitutes "constantly defending it" or talking about it, my mistake. I will endeavor to mention things less than once to avoid the impression of constantly stating things. Concur with the definition of censorship. However, are you saying bE has no right to determine how their product is used and people interact using the product? All social media outlets have user agreements allowing them to remove objectionable material. What's objectionable? That's a battle currently being fought on a much larger scale than EC, so there is no clear answer. I also think throwing around around a term with the seriousness of censorship in an argument about being able to call someone trash during a video game match trivializes censorship concerns. But that is just me. I know you weren't the one to throw that term out, but it came up, so I was giving my perspective on it. I won't fight on the definition of product vs service. I also concur that I need to be more careful with my words. I post things here for discussion, and am not used to making sure every word can hold up to a cross examinatin in a court of law. I will say that your definition is flawed because companies are liable for their products after money is exchanged. If something breaks, I can return it. If I am not satisfied, in can complain. If the product breaks and I am hurt because of it, the company is liable. Companies are also liable for other people misusing their products. So, the line between product and service is not that clear cut.
League of Legends even disabled all chat and gave users the option to turn it on. Blizzard just straight up squashed any cross faction talk since WoWs beta apparently. I suspect there is an industry lesson they are leveraging here. There is a trend here that players aren't responsible enough to use cross faction chat without causing a ton of work for the developers. Yes teammates can always be ass hats but its still less $$$ spent on moderation. That's the biggest point here not BE acting as some anti-free speech Nazi's or some other wild accusation. It comes down to managing the occasionally dickhead teammate vs both that and enemies that are prone to talk shit or actively troll their opponents. Since, yes there are thin skinned customers and their dollars are as valuable to them as yours is so they'd like to keep them around knowing that they are more likely to quit then the trash talkers are and are hell of alot more numerous...I mean it is a politicially correct world we live in now. Unfortunately games are not susceptible to freedom of speech anyways...then again even if it was, there are plenty of things that aren't protected: libel, slander, obscenity,pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, non-disclosure agreements, the right to privacy, the right to be forgotten, political correctness, public security, public order, public nuisance,campaign finance reform, perjury, and oppression. Soooo basically most of video game "banter"...fighting words actually was surprising to see on there and how simple it is defined. Although I hope there is never a court case for this over a video game chat lol. Still #Vote4AllChatToggle
Yeah, I've seen some exceptionally salty people do that in PVP lol. Pretty rare though, they have to be supppppper salty for that effort.
No salt needed.Just the will necessary to troll people!Bonus points if the "main" is a hunter or a rogue!
I had that happen a single time, was a hunter I killed a few times on a PvP realm. If it was red it was dead.
As I said, a company has the ability to restrict the actions of people using their service, to a limit. But that doesn't suddenly make censorship into not-censorship. And no, actually, given the way everyone likes to jump up and shout, "It's a private company and not the gubmint so it's NOT censorship!" because they heard that line on the news as justification for something, I don't think actually calling it what it is trivializes the word. If anything, it's been trivialized by so much mental gymnastics to excuse it when it happens. If a company that has sold you a product (an actual product, not a service) feels that you are doing something inappropriate with that product (taking a bath of raisin bran and orange juice, jamming a screwdriver into the fan blades of the air intake on your car), they don't have any recourse to do anything about it. If their product is harmful if used as intended, or flawed by design or manufacture, then they may be liable for injury or damage that comes about from the intended use of that product. That's a whole other topic to be getting into. Using a product in a way not intended by the manufacturer (and not used in the way a reasonable person would) does not open that company to liability. There's a trend? What's the source on that? Can you show us the data points, the number of reports each month on total vs. the number of reports for peoples' feelings getting hurt at words in chat? Why is responding to a ticket about hurt feelings something the developers would be doing? You use moderators/customer support/help desk people for that, not developers. And yes, you're going to have them anyway for all the other issues. You clearly have never done any work as any of those categories. In typical "politically correct" fashion, you're ignoring that the majority of votes on this issue were to bring it back and are saying that the opposite is true. You're also ignoring that, in this world, political correctness is enforced on the majority by the vocal minority that will create a false outrage anytime they find something they can use to victimize themselves over.
Yeah the trend is two of the largest companies have removed or limited chatting with the opposition. Feel free to do your own independent research on that, its super simple I believe in you. Also do you think moderators/customer support/help desk are free? Hence the $$$, that means it costs money. Which they obviously would prefer limit spending, even outsourcing it still costs money that they can save by cutting the report queue nearly in half if not more assuming that most volatile interactions are cross faction. To be clear....I said assume. What are you talking about ignoring the majority of votes on what? That there should be a toggle for all chat? I am not disputing that, never have been. How do you keep missing the entire point of this coming down to a financial decision by BE to likely reduce the amount of moderation/policing they have to do by limiting the total possible reportable trolling issues by half. There is no way you are oblivious to how business or money works about employees and the amount of work saved by cutting it out. I am not for or against it, its a trivial issue to me personally. I am happy either way, never complained about trolling when we had open chat, wont complain about not having but I do agree there should be an option.'
NO to global chat durring battle. Have seen multiple matches in WoT where some guy told the enemie our position because he wanted to end the match faster, or was pissed, or a troll, or .....
