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Eldar Will Be Constantly Called Op.

Discussion in 'Eldar' started by Kamikazzijoe, Jan 21, 2015.

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  1. Dragonkindred Dragonkindred Arkhona Vanguard

    Um, yes? Saves Craftworlds from the Eye of Terror. Single-handedly wipes out Tyranid hoards. Yup. He definitely can "punch gitz"!
  2. Andraina Andraina Curator

    All with an extremely large Gun that makes A shit ton of Dakka
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    I doubtz dis immenzely
  4. Bentusi16 Bentusi16 Prefectus

    I hate elves with a burning passion that reaches across dimensions, worlds, and settings.

    Mostly it stems from 3.5 and my love o f half-orcs as a character race vs. how they are awful mecahnically and how broken elves are mechanically.
  5. Just play a "half orc" and homebrew full Orc warrior stats or something

    Or you could always skin another races mechanics you like and skin it to be an Orc

    There's ways to screw with the system to squeeze the fun out of it

    Hell I'm workshopping an Eldritch Abomination and skinning it to be a Bahsk for a hypothetical character.
  6. Bentusi16 Bentusi16 Prefectus

    I've actually moved up to 5E and they changed them to not be pieces of crap which makes me quite happy as a player.

    Eldar come across like most elves as having unearned arrogance. Doubly so what with the GIANT HOLE IN REALITY they caused to exist. A dying race unable to cope with the fact that the old ways are done with, and unable to understand that new paths must be forged. Their tech is all ancient with no real signs of progress from the time of the Fall.

    They are also incredibly predictable and tactically inflexible. Rather then developing new techniques of fighting, they quite literally simply keep redoing the same one over and over again, going so far as to have the phoenix lords, whose ancient personalities imbue their armor and destroy the personality of whoever dawns it, leading to even further stagnation, as rather then honing the aspects and changing them with the times and the situations they find themselves in, they simply keep doing the same thing over and over again.

    It's a strength and a weakness, and in the long run a fatal flaw. They are stuck in a moment that passed millennia ago and cannot move one inch in either direction from a mixture of fear and stubbornness. Fear of falling back into old ways, but being to stubborn to give up the idea that they are glorious.

    Their story is tragic, but they as a people are unsympathetic. The vast majority of the Imperium is ignorant, and while xenophobic and close minded they are merely products of a system designed to make them that way. But the Eldar, for all their knowledge and intelligence, fall prey to the very same xenophobia and close mindedness as the Imperials do, but what is their excuse? Rather then ignorance, which can be forgiven, it is arrogance. People who can see but refuse to see. And that to most people is a far less tolerable position then any other.

    In a way I love the Eldar because they are perfectly representative of a tragic society with utterly unsympathetic viewpoints, and of elves that aren't happy fun nice. Of the flip side of being a long lived race in decline, where 'noble' isn't associated with the good side of nobility, but the bad side.

    I think this is represented perfectly on the table top, and in the fluff. It's probably one of the more subtle decent bits of writing GW has ever done, on the whole, a certain scottish midget not withstanding.

    Shame about them getting D weapons in non-apoc though the cheesy gits.
    Eart-eata, Vabius and Gorborkashiv like this.
  7. If GW's goal was to make me despise them, they did a damn good job
  8. Bentusi16 Bentusi16 Prefectus

    Exactly :)

    Though to be fair as a tau player to counter them I would personally just go with a lot of units who can take the "Sniper" special rule and blow away their psykers, and pinning rules to lock down the banshees and scorpions. Everything else can be out-dakka'd.

    And no, I refuse to take a riptide.
  9. Rikamar Rikamar Well-Known Member

    Nerf OP pls Eldar.
  10. Dragonkindred Dragonkindred Arkhona Vanguard

    Unfortunately for you, it is lore accurate. ;)
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