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Bringing the Iron Bane back

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by The-Forge-Dragon, Apr 23, 2017.

  1. Anvil The-Forge-Dragon Arkhona Vanguard

    Greetings fellow crusaders!

    Those more melee savvy amongst you Marines should remember the weapon called the Iron Bane. For those that don't here's a quick rundown: A Power Axe with extremely high penetration stated to be used against tanks. Therein lies the problem.

    It does diddly against tanks.

    We could raise the damage, but that would make it deadlier against people which while nice would not be in fitting with its description. And without knowing the toughness of a tank or even if they use the toughness system to calculate the damage a high-pen-low-damage weapon does to them raising the penetration may work or be an utter waste of time.

    So I've come to ask you how you would fix this weapon, giving it its proper anti-vehicle capacity without making it too powerful against infantry (not moreso than a regular axe at least)

    @NoahWard Is there any chance the Iron Bane may get a look at in the foreseeable future?
  2. James Aringhe Ordinate

    Instead of vehicles having high health (and anti vehicle weapons having high damage), lower the vehicle HP and increase the vehicle's Toughness to make penetration actually matter against it.
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  3. Yvelfir Yvelfir Arkhona Vanguard

    It's for the best that you don't take weapon descriptions literally, they're always stating things that clearly aren't true so take it as simply weapon fluff.

    Take a look at another one of the LSM unique weapons, the Snap Grav, which states that it deals 'significantly more damage than the standard type, but it overheats far faster'. Meanwhile it only has 4 more DPS to infantry and 9 to vehicles than the modded grav gun and has over double the heat gain, 1.4% to 3.3%.

  4. Interestingly enough the Iron Bane after the Axe mastery discount costs 400 LP. It takes a good 40 to 50 swings to kill a vehicle so we're looking at 60+ seconds to kill a vehicle with this "anti vehicle" melee weapon. For 400LP the Melt Bomb bundle can do the same in about 1 second.

    If Iron Bane is going to be a garbage weapon get rid of the ridiculous price tag. Most melee weapons are overpriced in the first place IMO. Swords only do slightly higher damage than knives and knives are free where as swords cost 200 to 400 LP.

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