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Boltgun remowal = Support class doesn't mean "tactical flexibility"

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Faeruin, Mar 26, 2017.

  1. The point is if you want to be an Apoth with boltgun then DON'T PLAY SPACE WOLF.
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  2. Threule Threule1994 Firebrand

    I've checked the codex, it doesnt say anything about them having no bolter. Instead, they are treated as veterans. Assuming the only modification is the champion one:
    One Veteran may be upgraded to an Apothecary, taking a narthecium…15 pts
    • The entire squad may take Space Marine bikes…35 pts
    • Any Veteran may take melta bombs…5 pts/model
    • Any Veteran may take a storm shield…10 pts/model
    • Any Veteran may take items from the Melee Weapons, Ranged Weapons and/or
    Special Weapons lists.

    So we can have stormshields, meltas, and pretty much any weapon. So let's fix it codex properly, right? :^)


    I dont play as the space puppies, I play as a red bird


    EDIT: Let me check the rules on puppies
    EDIT2: Puppies dont have boltgun
  3. XavierLight XavierLight Well-Known Member

    But WP does get access to Storm Bolter and Combi-weapons. I think the standard Bolter is the lesser evil compared to the SB.
  4. Xio Valency Xi0 Preacher

    Storm Boltor would actually be more balanced, they cant snipe at medium range, equip cqc barrel, drum mag and textured grip and is so expensive they have to give something up to use it, in this case armour, it would actually have downsides.

    We all know that the boltor is vastly superior to storm boltor mostly due to costs which all supports have problems with.
  5. XavierLight XavierLight Well-Known Member

    Y'know, this is probably worth testing.
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  6. Threule Threule1994 Firebrand

    They get Storm Bolter as Terminators (I'm checking the codex)

    Anyway, just in case any of you say "WHAT ABOUT SANGUINARY PRIESTS"


    UNIT TYPE:
    Infantry (Character)
    UNIT COMPOSITION:
    1 Sanguinary Priest
    WARGEAR:
    • Power armour
    • Chainsword
    • Frag grenades
    • Krak grenades
    • Blood chalice
    • Narthecium
    SPECIAL RULES:
    • And They Shall Know No Fear
    • Furious Charge
    • Independent Character
    OPTIONS:
    • May take a bolt pistol…1 pt
    • May take items from the Melee Weapons, Ranged Weapons, Special Issue Wargear
    and/or Relics of Baal lists.


    EDIT: Check how cool them sanguinary priests are with their robes and nipple armor. Thats what I want to wear in a battlefield:
    [​IMG]

  7. Belphegor LordSloth Preacher

    The problem is not the codex but the way they implemented the WP in the first place. A wolfpriest would by EC standards act as an elite/veteran/chaptermaster (and would have limited healing abilities like in the codex). In TT he is a chaplain and veteran, spacewolfs as a chapter have a unique (and maybe inferior) way of treating wounded (since healing people up to full is not required in TT or the Lore like it is in this shooter) and the WP is not the run of the mill field apoethecary. All other factions have their supports labeled as a standard "soldier" type character. Chaos got a downgraded "aspiring" sorcerer to justify that. The eldar warlock has it's abilities also severly limited and the dok is more or less just a slugga with a healing grenade (mind you this also applies to the regular apoth, who is just a specialised tactical with a healing grenade). Spacewolfs should have had a regular Apoth (for balance reasons) all the way and there would have been no discussion. However other supports should have the option to go ranged aswell. Chaos is in TT not limited to forceweapons either and im sure (someone might correct me) the other supports could fit higher grade range weapons aswell.
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  8. Xio Valency Xi0 Preacher

    I would be interesting to see
    Unless you make Warlock a spirit seer and Sorcerer non aspiring you won't see any of these, this is basically a HQ profile. at best you would get a chainsword and jump pack with no option for jump and boltor.
  9. XavierLight XavierLight Well-Known Member

    Isn't there also a Sanguinary Novitite in the Command/Honour Guard Squads that acts more like a regular Apothecary?

    I assume the current Sanguinary Priest we have is actually that.
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  10. Bildsturmer Bildsturmer Arkhona Vanguard

    A thousand times this. Why would you pick Space Wolves if you want to be tacticool CoD-shooter-man.
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