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Assassin vs Crusader; a poll

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Karond, Sep 14, 2016.

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Which kind of kills are the most numerous in most of your games?

  1. Melee kills

  2. Ranged kills

  3. They seem to be about equal

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  1. Warboss Sickytoof Karond Steam Early Access

    Hi!

    Assassin is the commendation for most ranged kills, while crusader is the commendation for the most melee kills, given out to one player on each team after a match. In a typical game do you feel like people in general, not just yourself, score most of their kills in melee or ranged?

    For me, it's a dominance for melee. I can sometimes get the assassin commendation on a mere 8 kills, while there are 8-10 people with 20 kills each on the scoreboard. I think this have changed slightly with the latest patch, as before it seemed to me like melee dominated for all 4 races but now I find that melee only dominates the kill count for CSM and LSM (more hawks than scorpions now, and ork melee is well...supbar). Even so, for orkz and eldar I still find its about equal right now rather than a ranged dominance. I think that only Harkus is the exception to this, as even Zedek/Maggon/blackbolt is melee dominated in the games I play at least.

    The reason I pose this question is because there are numerous threads about people voicing complaints about melee, be it defensive bash making melee obsolete, or melee not working properly or that the "enemy" team, but not your own, are always made up of only devastators or dark reapers etc. I think a poll like this could really highlight how centered the game is on melee and ranged, if at all.

    I'm obviously biased though. Melee is such a dominating force on the kill counts in all of my games, despite all the guns. Not complaining, I think the duels are far more interesting than sniping, just wanted to see how everyone else experience the game :)
  2. Valaron Valaron Arkhona Vanguard

    Olipsis, Pegasus definitely melee. Zedek, Harkus, new Blackbolt and Maggon usually ranged :) Medusa in the middle. At least from my experience getting kills and watching scoreboard :)
  3. Cyrillus Cyrillus Confessor

    Given the abundance of heavies we have this patch assassin commendations are being handed out a lot more frequently than before for the top spots. When the commendations were first implemented I'd see Crusader on the top of the board and another 5 or so players down before we saw the Assassin.

    That said I'm seeing both assassin and crusader alternating for top spot just about every game right now, but it largely depends on the map.
  4. Lerdoc Katitof Well-Known Member

    I'm getting crusader even on Swooping Hawk....

    Tells a word about the effectiveness of SH weapons....
    Useless at range and while I'm up close, I might just as well save ammo.

    Other then that, its 100% dependent on which class I play during the game, unless I dedicate myself to 100% support its pretty much always one or another equally, sometimes both.

    Getting that commendations every 8 out of 10 games easily.
  5. Nimrock Nimrock Well-Known Member

    I`m not sure about others... so I will talk only for myself. I don`t run any statistics but iI belive it is like this:
    Eldar - playing striking scorpion/warlock/shuriken cannon darkreaper - quite the same number of killed enemies with ranged / melee.
    Orks - playing plasma loota and slugga boy with club - most kills with loota.
    SM - Ground assault with power mace, devastator with h.bolter and tactical with bolter - about same effective
    CSM - Ground assault traitor with power mace, havoc with autocannon, traitor with bolter - more kills with melee.
    Maps are also important and enemies you fight. Against eldar I go melee... hard to shoot them couse speed and hit-box.
    Melee got better. When I started it was a total mess. There are still some problems with d-bash but right now I think a good player can have high kill number with both melee/ranged classes.
  6. GreyNight ArtemK Arkhona Vanguard

    Melee kills always were about 40% of overall, as overall server statistics kindly tell us. So with last patch being the most unpleasant for melee you could guess their current kill number is around 35%, give or take.
  7. Details Details The Spriteful

    depends on the patch and the map

    but it's usually ranged thanks to heavy requiems and equivalents
  8. Tyranthius Tyranthius Well-Known Member

    Depends on the class.

    Anything with Heavy Bolters seems to be top of the score board with kills...for obvious reasons.
  9. MacBeth MacBeth Well-Known Member

    As I play Devs, Tacts and Apoths, I most often get Assassin and Support commendations, if I get Crusader, then the game has gone very poorly for us.

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