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You messed up the FD "fix"

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by RageScreama, Nov 30, 2016.

  1. Valentine Iyan Firebrand

    Lmao I remember the super stun earthquake grenades =D Back then you had to stun an enemy with the grenade then land next to them or shoot them from behind to kill them bc the lasblaster was a bubble-gun =p

    @MichaelChan I think the grenades need to become part of our strategy with other aspects again, I thought the original idea was we'd stun and harass ppl while banshees and avengers and other people got to them.
  2. Fistikuffz da Harassa Lawro Well-Known Member

    Oh gawd don't start with the ded shiny placebo :p. Fine, I'll just stop here, most people feel the 'objective' lack of DA stats on their gameplay. For me its more a matter of different quality and playstyle rather than being downgraded shootas or tacticals.
  3. RageScreama RageScreama Well-Known Member

    What I do better with dead shiny over basic. I just do ok. For me it isnt a placebo.
  4. Lerdoc Katitof Well-Known Member

    On the distances most firefights happen in EC?
    None.
    Even against smaller Eldar as long as you don't hip fire on the move.
    I'm playing actively ALL 4 factions, eldar rank 6, rest half way between 5 and 6.
    There is absolutely no problem at all aiming or shooting both normal and big shoota, they are even effective on a bit longer ranges if you fire short bursts.

    On the distance I've described the situation, there is zero advantage for Eldar and that is only distance DA is able to engage effectively.

    DAs speed and mobility means NOTHING if you want to actually HIT with ASC.
    I'm fed up with all you people having verbal diarrhea of "speed this speed that" coming from clueless people who don't even have eldar character.
    You can't outrun bullets, when you're using speed, you can't aim effectively, when you aim, you can't use speed.

    STOP spouting the bullshit about speed being a meaningful advantage unless you can show me that you play eldar and achieve good results during matches, it doesn't have to be 30-50 kills I or Shoulder Mount do per match, but back your bullshit with some facts - I can do it, having experienced ALL factions, weapons and matchup combinations-can you?
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  5. Nosfantor Recruit

    Just give the Dire Avenger SC the same stats and mods as the shoota and I guarantee they will be happy with their primary weapon. In fact I will actually start using the DA if that is the case.
  6. RageScreama RageScreama Well-Known Member

    The only actual speed advantages eldar have are: being able to use hover tanks to bypass obstructions better to get around the map and the swooping hawk hit and run harass. Outside that the general eldar player is too squishy to actually get an advantage out of any minor speed advantage they may or may not have. The dbash and vault animations are also too slow resulting in counter intuitive moves to how eldar are supposed to function.

    I still advocate even fastsr run speeds, maybe some actual affordable wargear with effects similar to the DR speed boost but with larger effects, and they absolutely need faster/smoother melee interaction animations. Alternatively we could also fix marines melee spam to be more fair and their vaults to actually be affected by the fact that they are wearing hundreds of pounds of armor.
  7. Fistikuffz da Harassa Lawro Well-Known Member

    Aww sweetie, you're getting worked up over nothing again, did you take your medicine today?

    Btw I see you in Eldar games, usually right behind me in 2nd or 3rd place on the scoreboard :*
  8. Kyros Drakonite Preacher

    I like the part where when confronted by a strong argument you result to petty insults.

    Either way, this:

    Pretty much shows you have no grasp of how ranged combat works in this game. Any race (Not just eldar) trying to hip fire is going to be hitting a whole load of nothing. Eldar are slow as anyone when aiming. Heck, Hip firing on DA is worse than doing it on SM/Orks because they have no ammo mods. It's just an effective way of losing your entire clip doing nothing.
  9. Fistikuffz da Harassa Lawro Well-Known Member

    First of all, sad that you consider anything said as a strong argument, I urge you to reread it. It was a ragepost about how he doesn't want to hear anything other than his opinion reflected (to be expected) and driving the point home with no more arguments than my own (I play this and that, I get kills). And yes I used a condescending insult, agreed that was petty.

    The other part pretty much shows a lot of nothing. You can throw words how I don't get something, I can continue saying the same for you. Luckily we're all entitled to our own opinions so bye.
  10. Kyros Drakonite Preacher

    An argument is not an opinion by default. You can make arguments based on facts, numbers, empirical knowledge and yes, opinions. If you chose to ignore an argument contrary to your opinion that's entirely your prerogative, but that makes your opinion falsifiable by default.

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