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Will There Be Variation In Ork Size/mass?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Benny, Jul 2, 2014.

  1. God God Well-Known Member

    Yeah I personally think that Nobz need to be bigger than boys at the very least. I mean that's why they're nobz right? The bigger and stronger you are the higher you rise in the ork ranks
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  2. Kojiro Abenobashi Well-Known Member

    Agreed, at least Boy/Nob/Warboss differences. They are extremely noticeably different in size. If a Boy is the same size as a Nob.... kind of kills one of the huge intriguing aspects of the growth of an Ork Character.
  3. Benny Benny Master

    Thanks Patrick. I really do appreciate you taking the time to reply & speak to the community. I also appreciate you passing it on to Brent & David for further consideration.

    As you have pointed out, there will be some large obstacles implementing something like this. That said, I think the benefits would greatly outweigh the negatives & is a feature that should be added at launch . Here is my reasoning:

    1. BeHaviour's #1 priority in EC needs to be the focus on the "Free to Waagh" gameplay. This is where the vast majority of your new customers & new potential revenue is going to be generated. It needs to blow away new players so much so that they are excited to try out the different races. This is also why it is important that the Ork gameplay is unique from the other races. By being unique & different, it will give them an incentive to purchase the full game in order to play the other races.

    2. Free to Waagh players are going to have LOTS of questions. This is one of the biggest issues that has plagued Planetside 2. New players are overwhelmed, have no idea what is going on, who to follow, where to go etc. By having different sized orks, there is a very recognizable hierarchy & they will immediately know who experienced players are & whom to direct their questions to. I would recommend exactly that. In the loading screen, have a tip saying: Have questions!? Ask da biggest & meanest ork you can find! I'm willing to bet this will have a very positive impact on the game. Its something Planetside 2 has lacked & they are just now considering. A mentorship program.

    3. Obviously very lore appropriate & would make Ork players smile.
  4. Kaldor Draigo Kaldor-Draigo Well-Known Member

    I have to admit that sounds pretty awesome!
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  5. Kojiro Abenobashi Well-Known Member

    Going to throw my agreement in on this one too.
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  6. np :) we consider this part of the job and the fun to talk to the community!
    While I totally agree with all 3 of your points as a player, as a developer I always need to consider the time and cost of this - as much as we like to have this, essentially it's adding 1 more race for every "size difference". (ok i know that is a bit overdoing it, but the fact is it is a lot of extra work for the artists, and that costs time!)
    That said - we will for sure look into it and consider it carefully, and if we find a good solution to do it for launch we will, that you can be sure of. But with current knowledge and time, I think focusing on what we have planned and deliver that in good quality and time is much more important!
  7. Benny Benny Master

    I'll leave it in Gork & Mork's hands then :) If you can find a way, I think it would greatly improve the Ork experience in a positive way as well as the new player experience. The largest issue impacting MMOFPS's today is player retention & in MMOFPS's players = content. The better the new player experience > player retention. Thanks again for your time Patrick, really appreciate the feedback.
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  8. Vox de Vacuo Vox-de-Vacuo Active Member

    Thanks!
    If my voice will count, I say that different sizes are too iconic for orks to skip that fact. Actually, what else could better convince F2P gamer to spend some [hopefully small] amount of cash if not the size of other orks?! Everyone wants be da biggest and da meanest [Wwaaaaaaghhh]!
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  9. For what it's worth, I'd love to see it in-game. I am, of course, also aware of all the extra work it would entail. A while back it was stated that we should never not suggest something because of how much work we think it would be, and I'm going to stand behind that concept.

    That said, there are some things that are simply beyond the scope of something that can reasonably be done, and I get that.

    TL;DR: I'd love to see it, but if it can't be done, I completely understand. Just my 2 cents.
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  10. Oh I am totally with you there - just because the obvious solution might not be doable in time and budget, there might be still a part of it or simpler version of it that might be worth looking into!
    Some of the best ideas came from the forum talks! so keep up the good work guys! Love talking to you and thinking about these things!
    Cheers!

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