I remember recently I heard a powerfist charging behind me as a kannon loota, i turned around and fast attack, we clanged a millisecond before he would have instagibbed me then a rocketboy stabbed him in the back and he was ded, it was hilarious.

Read this and try again:
http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/i-thought-id-seen-it-all-power-fist.65605/

Stuff like this just feels wrong though


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEKyQyRu5nE&feature=youtu.be

So you want an RPS system where your target can only throw Paper and Scissors? So you can throw Scissors with impunity and your opponent can, at best, draw with you? But they won't draw, because their weapon will have a lower durability than you, so you will always win. I suggest you might want to rethink that.

Want to be in melee? Pick a melee class. Otherwise, reposition while teammates shoot/melee ties each other up.

Ranged TTK's been buffed to absurd levels since F2p, no whining.

I really feel they should just get rid of the dbash and bring the block back. GW just had to go and mess that up though. I feel that this game is dying because people that we cant see are pulling all the strings and dont want this game to get anywhere. I could just be paranoid but who knows.

I did. If you spam FA's you deserve to lose to Dbash spams. Fist is supposed to be an AV tool anyways with a token self defense option like melta.

A Reaper can literally land 2 Dbashes in the time it takes to charge the fist, so that argument holds no value.

Meltas can kill people in their range just fine, and can't be stalled indefinitely.

Meltas still lose to shoota/bolter/asc (assuming the player can aim) and hitting them with a FA even if they clang it means that have to wind up again.

Again. FIST IS AV.

Meltas are perfectly viable for getting infantry kills and threatening, despite being AV. They'll trade kills against bolters, even if they lose. If you're being targeted by one, you want them to die immediately. If you're targeted by a fist, you laugh at how cute it is.

And knives are knives. Gun melee/knives have no business competing in the same distance against T4 melee. Stop running into dedicated melee as a ranged class.