Horus' eyes were opened to the Truth. You speak of lies? Wasnt the Emperor that hid Chaos from humanity , from his own sons? He was well aware of its existence yet he kept it secret. He did not even try to protect his sons from ignorance. He would chastise psykers yet he was the Galaxy's greatest psyker. He would betray the crusade and return to Terra. Your Emperor preached about how he is not a God. This is the only truth he ever said and yet its the only one that you fools IGNORE. Ironically, The Dark Gods lied to Horus, telling him that The Emperor sought to have all worship him. What they showed him, is the very same future that he will unwittingly forge! I nearly fell for the same trap myself. I was shown many things deliberately, just so I would fall into the arms of Chaos. The Dark Gods toy with us - This use of irony is proof. Does your Emperor not consume his servants to keep his pathetic existence? Have your leaders any interest on the masses ? Are they not driven by self interest and amusement? Who are you to judge the deeds of divine Gods! You blame them for being egoistic and yet you follow egoistic mortals. A God of Chaos has all the right to be egoistic. He is a God. Did I saw I ever approve of those mortals? did I ever say there is any difference? What makes you think that the entire Imperium's leadership are driven by self interest and amusement? I judge your Gods for what they did to mankind. I would not follow them because of their deeds. My loyalty is to the God-Emperor, and never to an egoistical mortal. The best they could do is earn our respect, and there are a few who earned mine! Werther a God of Chaos has a right to be egoistic or not does not matter. It matters not if they are even gods at all or not! I would not follow those who would willingly make us their playthings for themselves, with their power. Ah , you confess then , you need incompetent geezers to lie and cover the truth , otherwise the slumbering masses might awake and see the truth. You blindly follow liars whose only quality is a title they inherited. Those who lead in Chaos , are those who can grasp the leadership with power and wisdom. Indeed I do confess that they are needed. But tell me: What happens when everyone knows? Do you think a new age of prosperity and advancement would follow? Certainly not! Not if your gods have anything to say about it! Your guardsmen and sisters of battle might object to that. Because they look no further then at what they do? Yes actions do speak louder than words. The fools who so easily turned against their brothers of Prospero , even though the sons of Magnus were still blind to the truth. I thank them for being such eager lapdogs , their actions have favoured us greately. As for the wulfen , do not misunderstand me , i find the beastial wulfen a lot more honest and proud than the space wolf servant. May they all succumb to their true nature and be freed. You... advocate the trickery of Tzeentch? You are truly insane! The Vlka Fenryka only followed the orders of a Warmaster who kept up appearances until the last moment, and thus allowed Tzeentch to manipulate the sons of Magnus into his fold... You are truely damned and weak if you are willing to accept the fact that the Dark Gods are willing to suck all you once were, and could have been dry, before casting you aside or rewarding your need. Some are born to rule. Others are born to serve. This is the true law of nature. It is easy to obey like you do. It takes a real man to step out of the mass and radiate his personality. It takes an even greater man to ignore the temptation, and to move on. Humanity will be perfect when we storm the gates of Terra and cast down the Corpse. When the warp floods the materium and we welcome our masters in their rightful place. Perfection is the death of evolution... Will you be willing to butcher all of Terra's innocent as you do? Those who never truly wronged you? ...You make me sick. In Death i will become one with my Gods , my essence and theirs merged into One. No greater glory can i imagine. If the Gods deem me worthy a tool to grant me immortality so be it. Yet this is not what i seek. You are not talking to a faithless mongrel like the Night Lords or the Iron Warriors. My faith is strong. You are not talking to a mere Astartes either. As I die, I will stand by the Emperor's side for eternity. I refuse to work for a pantheon that thinks only to serve it's needs. If I never do go to the Emperor's side... I can take satisfaction in what I have done in life, and even greater satisfaction to see my name endure for all those in the future to read, remember, and become inspired by. All that you say apply from my point of view for you and your Imperium brother. Those are the flaws presented to me... but it was not given that I would have time to clear my mind... and think it through. There is no innocence, only degrees of guilt... and by far, The Dark Gods are more guilty in my eyes. When I die, it will be the day I died killing as many of mankind's enemies as I can... and the day that my name is etched to history. Your Dark Gods would never do that for you.. I can safely call that fact a "win".
I shall never stop until all Temples of the false Emperor are ashes and all false profets are skinned and hanged. If you wish to deliver our battle of faiths elsewhere so be it. If you fear that my words bring light to the mind of the deceived and want to obscure me from a public debate , i mock your simple mind. I await your reply as to where shall we meet in battle. I fear nothing. My faith is strong.
I do not fear that your truth will bring more followers: It is their own choice once they learn. But I do however fear that we will derail this thread of it's intended purpose, and NOBODY really likes a derailed thread or subject. You will not find my faith wanting.
A democratic space marine , how cute. I will not disagree , this thread is indeed dominated by me , enlightening you.
Yes, but he's pushing the envelope. Stop derailing the thread or it gets locked. This isn't an RP forum.