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Where Are The Blood Ravens?

Discussion in 'Space Marines' started by Miletos, Nov 29, 2013.

  1. Erobar Erobar Steam Early Access

    *Spoilers ahead*

    Please Explain to me how you deduced that, because Frankly to me i wouldn't be surprise if most of the endings were Canonical, except of course for the Tyranids. I mean when you play as the eldar you find out that Kyras has Taldeer's soulstone and that she has a brother, when you play as IG Merrick doesn't get shot for Insubordination and Inquisitor Adrastia uses her own witness of the Aurelia events, plus Kyras' Psychic hood to halt the Exterminatus Fleet. For SM you prove to Captain Diomedes that Kyras was just using him as a puppet, kill off any marine Influenced by Kyras and make Gabriel the new chapter master, the Orks took Adrastia's Hat and took Control over the Judgement of Carrion, while the Chaos SM under Eliphas's Command where able to spread a Campaign of terror for the Black legion and ascend Eliphas himself to daemonhood, plus they manage kill off Adrastia.

    (Personally I think BluddFlagg, Sargent Merrick, Ronahn, Eliphas, and Tarkus Deserve to have some sort of Cameo in EC Because i found them as such a Entertaining and a rather Crazy bunch of Misfits.)

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  2. Erobar Erobar Steam Early Access

    But what about the Different "Items" the Blood Ravens have been collecting over the years, Especially the ones they got from other chapters like the blood angles and Imperial fists? I remember in Chaos Rising the Different Chaotic items you could get when trying to go full Corrupt.
  3. Freke Freke Subordinate

    Again, this has been addressed before. The relics/wargear you pick up were simply a gameplay mechanic to add character progression in the game, making it so you weren't just commanding Space Marine Joe Bill the Second.

    "realistically" you don't kill a Slugga and he drops a power fist. Those are just mechanics.
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  4. Mhorge Mhorge Curator


    I actually recall hearing somewhere that the word of god does list the Imperial Guard as the victors in the overall campaign, but elements from all (bar Tyranids) became canon as well.

    Although, as far as Imperial Guard victory goes, I think the largest aspect is that the Inquisition starts investigating the Blood Ravens on suspicion of heresy.
  5. Erobar Erobar Steam Early Access

    Oh i didn't mean just those Items.....

    http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Blood_Ravens_Armoury#.Ure9gvRDv_H

    Go ahead, take a look if you haven't before. There is a lot of damning evidence in there that shows the Blood Ravens "Collecting" other Chapter Wargear even before or during the DOW Series. I particularly like these.

    http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Black_Rage_(Chainsword)#.Ure_LfRDv_E

    http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Snarl_of_the_Wolf#.Ure_TPRDv_F

    http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Matchless_Savagery_of_Russ#.Ure_W_RDv_E

    http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Fist_of_Belial#.Ure_efRDv_E

    http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Mephitic_Perdition_of_Flies#.Ure_nfRDv_E

    http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Honour_of_Terra#.UrfARPRDv_E

    Either way i can't see the Blood ravens making an Actual Appearance as a whole due to the fact that i think the space wolves are the ones who hate the blood ravens the most from their Wargear Hoarding, The blood Ravens looking only for Knowledge and possible Recruits, and oh idk the fact that they're Practically down to like one or 2 Companies left Because most of their Battle brothers sided with Kyras and became chaos marines during the Aurelian crusades and they lost half of their chapter at the Kurava system. So realistically speaking they aren't fully equipped to participate in another crusade and are probably still under suspicion by both the Inquisition and the rest of the Imperium for Heresy, even if Gabriel did have to make an Investigation himself. I mean if we get to see people like Cyrus or Tarkus making cameo appearances then i'm fine with that, but with so much heat on them and the possibility of making their recruiting worlds more Vulnerable if they went on this crusade, i'd say it would be Impossible. But i may be wrong of course.
  6. Matobar Matobar Moderator / Keeper of the Light


    Literally none of the gear you listed was actually stolen.
  7. Wyzilla Wyzilla Well-Known Member

    There's nothing supporting them as gifts. Not to mention Space Marines never gift large amounts of their relics, they hoard them.
  8. Matobar Matobar Moderator / Keeper of the Light


    The only one of the items he listed that wasn't made by the Blood Ravens was the Mephitic Perdition of Flies, and that was a Chaos item found on an enemy combatant.
  9. Akragth Akragth Well-Known Member

    So their crime is naming gear after things from other chapters? o_O
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  10. Matobar Matobar Moderator / Keeper of the Light


    People don't like that apparently they receive "gifts" from other Chapters, and think that they actually stole them.

    One of the worst examples is a bit of Terminator Armor from the Adeptus Custodes, which is frankly absurd because Custodes don't have Terminators, nor are they the same size as Space Marines (they're bigger) and frankly they wouldn't give away their armor when it would be perfectly usable by another Custodes.

    But that's just a bit of lore flubbery, not indicative of a campaign of thievery.

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