Just to kind of put this to rest. All the "The Black Templars are sooooo different and unique!" doesn't really hold up to massive scrutiny. Hold onto your Astartes Panties and don't get them into a twist until I'm done with my post. The Black Templars don't adhere to the Codex? Nor do the Salamanders to a vast degree, nor do the Space Wolves, or quite a few other Chapters. It's not a big deal even though their suspected number is pretty damn impressive, lol. All that's left besides that is they don't really have Pyskers besides Astropaths and Navigators out of a necessary evil, and they Crusade all day and night.....which other Chapters do just not to the utterly fanatical degree that the Black Templar do. Emperor's Champion is pretty cool (and so are the Chapter's colors/iconography) but it's kind of a limited role that wouldn't be available to the masses. Plenty of other Chapter's have quirks like this but to alternate degrees...example being the Blood Ravens and their affinity for Librarians, etc. So, they're about as fleshed out as most Chapters besides the more heavily invested First Founding Chapters, but this isn't entirely their fault as they're a newer creation so you have to cut them some slack. If being a righteous Crusader is your thing they're a great Chapter, if a bit...single minded and rather blinded by their own fanaticism and belief that the Emperor is a god which is rare among Space Marines. But hey, GRIMDARK!!! Just wish people had a bit more to say about why they like them then going "Hey, our ship is called Eternal Crusader! Totally Legit Argument for inclusion!" A lot better reasons to include them. I envision Eternal Crusade going as thus, for the benefit of all the Space Marine players: First 5 Chapters are First Founding Chapters Ultramarines Blood Angels Dark Angels Space Wolves ---------------- Once they're in, you have the game grow with small expansion packs that add playable Chapters that would fit lore wise. Examples.... (Spitballing for some as they have MANY successors, not a definitive list of good choices. Chapters in asterisks are possible 5th Chapters) Ultramarines - Silver Skulls / Novamarines Blood Angels - Angels Sanguine Dark Angels - Consecrators / Angels of Absolution / Angels of Vengeance Space Wolves - <.< *Imperial Fists - Black Templar / Hammers of Dorn / Crimson Fists *Iron Hands - Iron Lords *Salamanders - Black Dragons (Iffy, not sure if actually related and has a really messed up Gene-Seed) *White Scars - Storm Lords / Mantis Warriors *Raven Guard - Carcharodons / Revilers This list is to emphasize the benefit of applying a First Founding Chapter over the Black Templar as the 5th spot. Lay the groundwork for a solid game and add a story reason for their successor Chapters coming to their aid for reinforcements. It gives them more time to add the game systems required for more....varied styles of Chapters. Black Templars showing up as part of one of the first expanded Chapter inclusions could be good for BT players. If the Fists make it as the 5th Chapter, who better for the Fists to ask for aid then their brothers in black? Basically, add the Founding Chapter so that any added Successor has a lore link to a Chapter already in game. I think the Imperial Fists and Salamanders have the best shot as they fill a specialization that doesn't immediately overlap with the others, though I'd also like to see the Raven Guard as well.