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What is the point of Defensive Bash now?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Redthirst, Apr 14, 2016.

  1. Redthirst Redthirst Eternal Battles Moderator

    So since it's not fixed yet, I'm starting to think that it's not even a bug. So, if this is intended and Defensive Bash should indeed only stun for 0.5 seconds, then what is the point of it? If you get fast attacked during windup, there is no stagger, so enemy can actually dodge behind you and kill you while you're still in animation. If you do land it, then you can maybe get off one fast attack, or do a dodge roll and fire 2 bolter shots. So is it actually broken, or is intended that hitting it doesn't really do much?
  2. Heelidar Heelidar Recruit

    It gives you two precious seconds =)
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  3. Redthirst Redthirst Eternal Battles Moderator

    I've noticed that even this doesn't happen all the time. Mainly because of that thing when it doesn't always stagger enemies that attack you during windup. A lot of the time, it actually leads to my death, meaning that Defensive Bash makes it easier for my enemy to kill me.
  4. FoxDie Sonbot Well-Known Member

    This is disheartening that nothing has changed. I am guessing fast attacks can still juggle you then.
  5. Heelidar Heelidar Recruit

    Well it is still your best chance...
  6. Redthirst Redthirst Eternal Battles Moderator

    True, you either use Defensive Bash and hope that it will work or you die. Not a lot of choices.
    It actually looks like it's worse. Before that, lag was also contributing to it, but now even on Olipsis and similar maps with less lag Defensive Bash still doesn't really work.
  7. Abatos Abatos Subordinate

    Either it's broken and needs to be fixed, or it's not broken and is not serving it's intended purpose.
  8. Redthirst Redthirst Eternal Battles Moderator

    The issue is that I'm not sure what it is. Houman today said to me that it's intended, since it used to stunlock. But I don't really see how it's intended, since it barely serves a purpose now. Plus, it's sometimes hard to see whether it actually stunned or not. The stun is so short, that sometimes I don't even notice it.

    It can also clang off of attacks(not sure if fast or charged) which instantly breaks your melee and staggers you(talking about knife vs. heavier weapon here).
  9. GreyNight ArtemK Arkhona Vanguard

    They fixed a bug when dbash was cut through during very early windup phase, though. 1 good, 2 to go.
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  10. Redthirst Redthirst Eternal Battles Moderator

    Seems like it. Though today I encountered a brother to this bug, when Defensive Bash is somehow pierced right before the animation is done.

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