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What Do I Need To Know About The Dark Angels?

Discussion in 'Space Marines' started by Golokopitenko, Aug 4, 2014.

  1. Tallar Tallar Arkhona Vanguard

  2. Shonedar Shonedar Well-Known Member

    The "Primarch is having technical problems, but will be available next time that it's the end of the world" is a repeating pattern...like Leman Russ on vacations etc...

    Anyway, best thing about Dark Angels is they are good (or heretical) enough to be considered a rival for the Space Wolves...:p
  3. Darkraven Darkraven3000 Active Member

    Not many but still yes. Space Wolves also breaking law and? Main difference is that DA are more like Alpha Legion with very strong connections with Lords of Terra, Administratum etc . Most operations are secret

    Lion - best tactical genius after Horus )
    about Heretics - indeed and most of them are damn champions of chaos , not just CSM but even for capture one of them sometimes entire Deathwing is needed. And they are threat to the Imperium. so big that there are entire chapters who's role is to hunt fallens

    It's not Lion , it's Luther also known as Dark Oracle
  4. That bits a little complicated due to the way authors have flip-flopped over using the original story behind that. Originally , following the loss of Caliban, the Dark Angels moved to using a recruitment world with a population which was largely based around Native American tribalism. After a genestealer cult was discovered there by a squad of Deathwing terminators and cleansed, the Dark Angels began widening their net and using multiple recruitment worlds as they regarded being linked to a single one as a weakness. It's also due to this event that the Deathwing now bear white armour, as the squad considered their victory against staggering odds on that world to have ultimately redeemed their number, and their company took them in order to honour those who fought there.

    These days however, it's treated more as a story which they use to hide the Deathwing's true role in helping hunt the Fallen from many others within the chapter, with the current canon claiming they've always had multiple recruitment worlds. Really, the closest any models get these days to retaining any Native American aspects is a few subtle bits such as the use of feathers on certain areas, but not much else.

    Well, the lore these days suggests that part of their armour was always green in order to remember Caliban's forests, but it was just mostly black. The main reason they changed mostly comes down to trying to distance themselves from the fallen and to remember Caliban after it was lost to them.

    To my knowledge it's not exactly stasis so much as him not waking up at all. He's merely being maintained by them in the hopes he will eventually awaken, most likely with a myth or legend being built up or spoken around that. It's more of an Arthurian element than anything else fitting with their knightly theme, so that the primarchs might possibly one day return. Others have similar possibilities with Leman Russ disappearing, Dorn now having left no body after he was supposedly killed, no one truly knowing what happened to Vulkan and Khan disappearing into the Webway.

    One slight correction on the honour part with the modern Dark Angels though, they are somewhat hypocritical when it comes to that point. All factions in just about any are to a degree, but just let it be made clear that the Dark Angels are willing to go any length and perform potentially dishonourable actions to try and get to the Fallen. This has previously involved abandoning allied forces and even getting others in their company killed, because they consider the Fallen to be a far greater shame than anything else.


    In fairness, that's not entirely true. Even ignoring the Draigo incident (despite being re-written to something more than Ward's power masturbation by Laurie Goulding), Perturabo and a few others have been shown to be quite active in Codex: Chaos Space Marines.

    Actually, to my knowledge, both of them are on The Rock, but Luther is the one awake and speaking, with his mad ramblings being used to help hunt down the Fallen.
  5. Darkraven Darkraven3000 Active Member

    For nearly 10, 000 years, the Dark Angels have lwpt the secret of the
    disastrous events that took place on Caliban. They will never reveal
    the truth to anyone outside their Chapter, for they could not bear for
    others to know their terrible shame. And all the while, deep within
    the Rock, his continued existence known only to the Watchers in the
    Dark and the Supreme Grand Master, the arch-traitor Luther raves
    on - speaking of what is to come or emitting senseless shrieks. At times,
    his voice assumes a grating, inhuman quality and it tells cunning
    lies or speaks wards of such utter despair that to hear them is to wish
    for death. It is the rare moments of lucidity, when Luther begs for his
    own end, that are, perhaps, the haTdest to enduTe - although each and
    every Supreme Grand Master has done so. They hope to gain wisdom
    from this darksome oracle, hoping to hear Luther recant, so that he
    might be, at last, released. Yet even the highest-ranking Dark Angels do
    not know everything, although they think that they do . . .
    Buried yet deeper within the Rock, hidden in its innermost chamber,
    is the final, greatest secret of the Dark Angels.
    Only one person in the galaxy knows the full tmth - the Emperor.
    Even in his living ent01nbrnent upon the Golden Thnme, even though
    the sunlwn orbits of his skull no longer have eyes, the Emperor still
    sees rnuch. Hidden inside a secluded charnber at the heart of what
    was once the planet of Caliban, unmachable b-y all save the cryptic
    Watchers in the Dark, the mighty Primarch Lion El Jonson lies
    sleeping. There he slumbers, his wounds long-healed, waiting for that
    time when he will be needed once again, when the clarion call of battle
    sounds for the last time, summoning him to once again defend the
    Impe1ium of Mankind against its enemies
    (sorry copy from digital version with some mistakes )


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  6. Please that, not a problem, thank you for providing the full quote detailing that part of the Rock.
  7. Golokopitenko Golokopitenko Well-Known Member



    I kinda dislike the Space Wolves, so this chapter suits me even more
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    Thanks for all the answers, I am now even more convinced that going Dark Angel was the right thing to do.

    PS. Where does the SW/DA rivalry come from?
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  8. Oh you'll probably like this one. To quote Lexicanum -

    "Few tales have been recorded regarding the Lion and the conduct of his Legion during the Great Crusade. One of them is that which is now known as the saga of "The Lion and the Wolf".

    Sometime during The Great Crusade, the Dark Angels and the Space Wolves assaulted a planet whose ruler had disrespected the Emperor by sacrificing thousands of priests to his patron Daemon. In addition to disrespecting the Emperor, the leader of the rebels had also insulted Leman Russ personally by naming him "The Emperor's Lapdog". In response, Leman Russ swore that he would cut the rebel leader's head from his shoulders and demanded that he be allowed to make an immediate attack on the rebel's headquarters. This impatient request was refused because The Lion had spent days gathering intelligence on the headquarters' defenses and had planned a detailed assault of his own. The Dark Angel attack went forward with few casualties and Russ could only watch from the grounds as Lion El'Jonson killed the rebel leader high on the walls of the fortress. After the battle, Russ stormed into the halls of the headquarters to find El'Jonson and vent his frustrations. During the confrontation Leman Russ struck Lion El'Jonson a blow to his head and the two proceeded to wrestle for a day and night without victory for either combatant. When the two finally broke apart, Russ began to laugh - humored by the circumstances the two were fighting over. The Lion was not amused. Seeing the first blow of this quarrel as treacherous, El'Jonson struck Russ unconscious as he was laughing.

    The Space Wolves' Primarch was carried from the chamber by his men, and when he had regained consciousness the Dark Angels had already left the planet to embark on another campaign. Russ swore he would avenge the slight to his honor, and to this day the two chapters fight honor duels in remembrance of this event. Some say these duels have brought mutual respect and a closer bond between the chapters.On other occasions, however, the rivalry between the two chapters has boiled into open hostility, fueled by mistrust and suspicion."
    One Slight correction though. That image you used is of a Raven Guard marine, specifically Nykona Sharrowkyn, rather than a Heresy era Dark Angel.
  9. Golokopitenko Golokopitenko Well-Known Member

    Whoopsy, it looked a lot like a pre-heresy Dark Angel
  10. Because they don't know about it. Only the Watchers in the Dark and the Chapter Master know about it. No one else even knows about the caves and cells that are that deep down in the Rock.
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