I'm still leaning more towards the "you only get one Vet per game, you choose when to spawn it, but it's way tougher than it is currently" camp. That being said, I'm ok with where it is now, I just would like the cosmetic additions to make it in game.

Seriously, I'm a Sternguard Vet, why isn't my crux on my knee or shoulder, where are the laurels or special colored helmet, where's my razzle dazzle.

my 2c ...

vets should be a cosmetic thing,

other elites and heros (the ones you cant customise fully) should be the limited spawn classes

maybe it would be better to just have a limit on how many vets are on the field at once? rather than "you died! congrats your custom loadout slot is now dead weight"

youd rather have the "sorry you cant be a vet because x number of other people already beat you to it"?

yea so some get stuck rarely playing them you know because others constantly spawn them to max

it's better than playing them once and then it's gone forever because you got blindsided as is most often the case when most people die.

I think if they get to handle the loadouts for vets in a better way they are gonna be fine.

As others said before, with Elites and Heroes comming there will be enough of higher tier players on the field. If they put a cooldown on the vets now, with Elites and Heroes you will possibly have more highter tier than normal players in the game, which is just fucking stupid (and fucked up for new players).

Besides, with limited spawns you really have to think about when to use your vets. It's not like wait for cooldown, wait for cooldown, wait for cooldown, spawn!!! It makes it a bit more of a tactical elements, which is nice in my opinion.

If everyone looks cool all the time, then no one does anymore.

That's why the cool veteran look should take a while to get. It's like getting a gold helm for reaching rank 50 in Chivalry medieval warfare. It took anywhere from 650-1200 hours to achieve this rank, so wearing the helmet was a semi exclusive club in any given public server.

I'm not saying to take that long but look is unique if you truely have to be a vet to get it.

I agree that if you get Veterans at max xp, then it should be cosmetic.

I would prefer the current veterans to be stronger/spawn more often, but be available from the start as a preset loadout.

I would also prefer Cooldown over limited spawns. This would encourage you to use them when you have them. You couldn't save them up for one big push.