Before the massive lag and rubber banding hit 2 or 3 weeks ago very few people complained about it being"impossible" to hit them. Their speed and hitboxes have not changed since then. Lag entirely favours the faster players ingames because it makes the teleporting, skating and rubberbanding you see even worse. Let the devs get the lag fixed or atleast reduced and see how hard they are to hit and deal with then. In the meantime ditch the bolters and pick up a storm/combi bolter and lead more than you think you have to. Are there other balance issues, yes like embolden which needs toned down and the 1 shots from every angle(could very well be lag related as well though due to characters not being where they should or not facing where it shows etc. Other than a dropoff decrease for the Avenger shuriken catapult and a much needed buff to the Reaper launcher, both of which were relatively small buffs and Eldar getting their missing melee class there were next to no changes that would have massively tipped the balance. Everyone from all factions needs to calm down and try to wait out the lag apocalypse that we are currently in. This is not me commenting on player skill or even saying that Eldar aren't OP. Another thing in regards to quiting matches. Not only does it skew the win/loss to look like Eldar are winning even more than they already are but it doesn't give the devs the metrics they need. Edit: I just had a game as CSM, I was using a combi bolter and a tactical ran up the ramp at Pegasus B point. As we started shooting I strafed around him and got behind him, at least on my screen. Well Thats when I found out bolters can shoot backwards. The lag is horrible.
Partly a good point, yeah. Though pre-lag there were also tons of complaints about Eldar having same base health and armor as Marines (like, a lot more than there are now), so it might just be shifting terminology
True but again with the lag as bad as it is, it's practically impossible to tell anything. Number of shots on all weapons are completely inconsistent this patch, hit detection is messed up etc.
Yes I've been supporting certain balance changes, but I've always said that we need to ensure that mechanical and technical issues get ironed out first. Then we can make changes from a more educated starting point.
I have only been playing since launch(or open beta so I cant tell what it was before. First impression: 1-Your nearly impossible to gun down and in a blink of an eye your in melee allready. 2-The only classes we see from Eldar are SS, Banshees and Warlocks. 3-Your tank pathing is too good compared to others. You have people doing 30 plus kills per game driving around the map roadkilling everything. And the hitbox for melta bomb is not what your tank looks like. I feel like they tried to give you guys too much uniqueness compared to all other races. Uniqueness can be good aslong as its not OP.
A couple of weeks ago most people naively thought the devs biggest priority would be game balance. HAHAHAHAHA. Now that the game is out, and they realize they have to deal with this when it MATTERS, people are understandably out of patience to play a beta, when they paid for a game.
You are goddamn right, i have to admit. Thing is, we play the game we got now. So if they fix the lag and we can finally hit Eldar again, i don't think a lot of people will complain again. but we can only discuss what we have now, wich is... bad at the moment especially against eldar
You do make some good points and I agree in general. I would say though that if the devs haven't got the metrics they need by now then WTF I would also say Warlock needs to be toned down in general, he's just too good at support and combat. I seem to see more warlocks than any other class in game. If the LSM apothecary was as good at combat as the warlock people would be rightly raging.
I'm thinking there are a fuck tonne of issues that will resolve themselves once the lag and random stutters stop.
But the Apothecary is my go to melee for marines because he shits on people especially Eldar and I don't need to buy shit, I do think he needs some quality of life changes though like not disabling heal when people walk away.
