Yup it s still one, multiplayer is good. And at least you do not take random shot while you are behind a cover.

This is fucking stupid. How many more times they gonna nerf the Fist/Klaw?

E - Christ, I've read through the thread now. I see LSM are yet again picking up the majority/all of the development spotlight.

Here's a few things from an Orks' perspective that could do with fixing (and no, the ability to cap is not worth a mega expensive, useless shield @Jaywalker - there is a reason you never see an Ork taking one ((because it's fucking useless and is permastunned by everything)));

• Melee animations - completely borked and feel like a poor man's version of the other factions'. Not fluid, unreliable, clunky and literally worse than other factions' (Dbash has no range, normal attacks have least range, most wasted time, least responsive)
• Painboy - the Dok is without question the weakest, most boring and fucking stupidly designed of all the support classes. Weaker than any other support in combat (can only take A SIDEARM AND A FUCKING KNIFE TIER WEAPON), literally worse versions' of the Apo's/Wolf Priests' items (massive kegs of healing that can be hit from anywhere on the map) and no interesting abilities make this class a completely wasted loadout choice. Give them a fucking shoota if DoggoPriests get the fucking bolter! What is this bs?!
• Rokkit - is still unclear where the damaging part of the explosion is, unless enemies are hit directly (or very close) the damage is little to none. Fine for me, totally anti - noob. Unreliable.
• Vehicles - our vehicles have the worst handling of all the factions, spend more time driving the Trukk on 2 wheels than 4. Stupid.
• Klaw is pound for pound worse than the Fist due to melee animations being absolute shit as first point.
• Shield - fucking awful. Gets stun-locked by pretty much any ranged weapon, breaks waaaay too easily and (best of all) it doesn't actually protect you from fucking bullets?!!?!! Waste of time, pistol is almost always better pick.
• Weapons - there are some weapons (looking at your one shot slugga, six shoota, pokkit rokkit etc) that are absolute garbage and there is no reason to ever take them. Might as well be taken out of the game.
• Weapons 2 - still missing some weapons that were promised before release I believe. Combi-shootas/pistols, our Plasma equivalent etc Why aren't they in?

/Rant

@NoahWard can you look at this when you get chance?

Well, people are still using it, so i guess there is more room for de-provements
(Is de-provement a word? Zog it, now it is)

>Orks
>Melee Faction



If you actually want to win as Orkz you have to play Shoota or Loota with the Ace Dakka or Kannon.

I logged in this morning, loaded up JPA / Raptor to give them a casual stroll across the battlefield before work.

Then people kept running into my Axe and dying. . .

My attacks connect, they do what I expect them to do, they don't glance off my target merely chipping the paint, they actually land.

At the end of the match I noticed 10ms latency.

. . . I'm Sitting here wondering what did they do . . .

I reserve judgement on this patch for later Will see how it pans out over the next day or so.

Yes this is real shit. Some of our weapons are just not viable. The worse of worse remains the Skip Launcher: you can literally empty all your ammo pool twice over a group of LSM and kill none.

As it is now imho Eldar are the melee faction. Extra agility, power weapons, scream and cloaking make them far better than the others.

I really think latency is bullshit to make you believe the net code is good.
Where I am, I CANNOT have under 200ms on London gateway but the game tell me "25ms lol".

Sometime I feel that the game lets me connect my hits, but in any case, I don't have ~25ms like the UI tell me.
Or we have a server on my island (hope big they said)

Do note that end of match scoreboard latency is bogus. The real one is the one you get on the tab scoreboard while the match is going.
For reasons I'm not really sure why.
I'm guessing at the end of the match scoreboard it pings to the local cloud readily available nearby, but not the actual game server running the matches mid-game.

Fist on LSM is garbage, even with Lifesteel mod you get like 3mm health per quick attack and 10mm health for Strong.

Has to be Khorne Fist + Lifesteal mod to be any good. got some sick kill counts today in the mid 40's
Quarter heal on quick + three quarters heal on Strong