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Time to watch the world burn...

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by The-Forge-Dragon, Jul 18, 2017.

  1. Anvil The-Forge-Dragon Arkhona Vanguard

    Take a look.

    Don't make too much ruckus, y'hear?

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  2. What are we looking at exactly?

    -I see 100 durability still for a free knife that has the same durability as a 200 LP Chainsword
    - a free knife that has the same armour penetration as a 200 LP Chainsword
    - a free knife that does 6 less damage than the default 200 LP Chainsword(94 fast attack damage for knife, 100 fast attack damage for chainsword)
    -a free knife that does 10 less damage than a 200LP chainsword per strong attack(170 strong attack damage per chainsword, 160 strong attack damage per knife).

    Other than that what are we supposed to be seeing?
  3. Anvil The-Forge-Dragon Arkhona Vanguard

    Take into account the whole setup.
  4. The pistol I'm assuming? Like I said the strong getting stronger.

    Pistol discounts should be for Ground Assaults only IMO. Or the discounts should be better for Ground Assaults since they really dont have anything special going for them compared to all other classes having unique weapons or unique abilities that no other class has access to.
  5. Ernaddon elDorado Steam Early Access

    resolve+double melta bombs, cool
    marines will be forced to protect their rhinos, whole new bunch of tactics
    not just run n die
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  6. Anvil The-Forge-Dragon Arkhona Vanguard

    It is a fire dragon with fuegans resolve, two melta bombs, and a master crafted pistol. Feugan's generatesabout 1.2 less heat per second than a master crafted fusion gun while the pistol generates 0.5 less per second than a regular fusion gun. The melta bombs are self explanatory.
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  7. Yeah well, as I stated, the strong getting stronger. Now we'll see every Tactical with a nice pistol, as if Tacs really need a leg up with the current meta.

    Pistol discounts should be for melee archetypes only IMO since all but shield bearing melee archetypes always have a pistol in hand as a primary weapon.

    That or we finally add a 50LP price tag for all default knives. I've never comprehended how it's fair for ranged archetypes having the ability to get a melee weapon for free, but melee archetypes have to pay 50LP to be able to partake in ranged combat.
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  8. Xio Valency Xi0 Preacher

    If only you had a burning rune to go with it for maximum fire
    You know Njord we can nerf it's damage right? you just have to give all Eldar classes except Dark Reaper 50 health back is all:) unless of course you preach for both to be nerfed as you always do anyway
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  9. You missed the point entirely. I'm fine for getting what we pay for. ;) The fact that knives are free for all knife wielding archetypes is the issue at hand when examining the offensive stats of the knife.

    Some rough math(I'm terrible with math):

    -Chainsword costs 300 LP(200 with training points). So we call it 200 LP.
    -The +5 Damage mod for Chainsword costs 50 LP.
    -The Eldar knife does 6 less damage per fast attack than a Chain Sword(so roughly 50LP less worth?)
    -all other knife stats other than force/impact are identical(100 durability, 100 armour penetration. How the hell the knife has same Armour penetration as a chainsword and chainaxe is beyond me)

    200LP(cost of Chainsword) - 50 LP(difference in damage) = 150LP the approximate cost and offensive combat value of the default knife.

    Let's take away 50 LP to be fair because knives dont have equal force/impact as swords. So that's 100 LP combat value of the default knife.

    I also find it difficult to buy into the fact that the free knife has the same durability and same armor penetration values as the 200 LP Chainsword and 200 LP Chainaxe, while only doing slightly less damage. How can anyone not see how imbalanced free knives are for all knife wielding classes?
  10. LOBOTRONUS LOBOTRONUS Arch-Cardinal

    LOL !!! Ehhhhhhhhh........ no comment !

    Transports and tanks R.I.P !!!!

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