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This will be the second territory LSM have taken from Eldar this week

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Warriant, Oct 8, 2016.

  1. Also stat guy stated that TK is highest in Eldar faction.:rolleyes:
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  2. Kharn KharnVarus Eternal Battles Moderator

    Eldar start losing for a little bit = Eldar are DRAMATICALLY and UTTERLY underpowered and all other factions are OP.

    Other factions lose = "Lol you suck get good Eldar need buffs"

    I can't believe that this is still going on :D
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  3. Jason021 Recruit

    Um... Well LSM have no buffs so.... Who knows. Whats likely happening is that noobs are joing Eldar because they're number one which is bringing Eldars score down.
  4. Elemir Swiftblade Warriant Arkhona Vanguard

    Not once did I state Eldar are drastically under powered or any other faction was OP but alright pal.
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  5. JohnnyWayne JohnnyWayne Active Member

    Better try yourself and make a LSM character as I did with Eldar.

    They are tremendously overpowered in everything. Tanks are WAY better in movement, "pilot" seat actually even has a gun to shoot with, mobility and speed are insane.
    Mobility and speed are also insane for their melees. As Assaults for LSM feel slow, unrepsonive and sluggish banshees actually feel like a fast forward mode of the game that also registrates all the input you give. There is no "I pressed spacebar and nothing happened - now I want to punch my monitor" moment for Eldar! I caught myself standing in a room of Orks killing three of them before the other five overwhelmed me. With their borkenly op strong attacks of course.

    Alone the more fluent combat animations and the responsiveness to input made this game feel way better than on LSM side, I encourage everyone to atleast play a character to level 3 on both sides. Thats an evening of playing each. Then we talk again.

    Anyways, I still don't know why backhit 1shots are in this game. They are plain stupid no matter what faction I play and d-bash also nees a look at, considering how often it is not registrated as hit.

    P.S.: Eldar don't have "more skilled players". They have as many idiots as every faction and people claiming this are full of shit. Like OP I guess.
  6. Yvraine Yvraine Recruit

    I think this is because our own transports are so damn sharp they kill you if you graze them.

    If it's not stationary then it should be viewed as a loose cannon xD
  7. Well, then it's really questions your faction transport balance(or driver player skill) if they so "sharp" that they kill allies so much that this affects whole faction metrics.:rolleyes:
  8. Elemir Swiftblade Warriant Arkhona Vanguard

    MYST somewhat regularly does events where we play as other factions and regardless of faction we generally dominate, we had space marine guild before launch for example and a lot of us play them regularly. @Aringhe for example is one of the best shield bro players I've seen in the game, generally getting obscene amounts of kills and points with next to no deaths because he actually uses the class to it's full potential. The high skill level of a lot of our players and extremely good coordination we generally have tends to help just a bit when playing other factions

    Very few of us actually think LSM are as strong as Eldar and it's something we talk about somewhat often, I myself think the standard bolter needs a slight damage and possibly accuracy boost and a possible armor boost among other things but the faction is not nearly as weak as a lot of LSM players make it out to be nor are Eldar as strong as a lot of players from other factions think, they are pretty much even with Orks and Chaos in terms of strength.

    One of the single largest issues with Eldar right now is the horrid amount of lag. It takes the speed and smaller hit boxes and makes them seem like far bigger advantages then they actually are.

    A lot of you also somehow forget how utterly horrible Eldar were for months after their release as well. We had non functioning melee and were stun locked for eternity if even tapped with a melee weapon. Guess what Chaos and LSM did? Spammed melee, laughed about it and some even went as far as to spam premades of jump assaults on founders, completely ruining testing. Or there was the powerfist spam for a few patches were we could do literally nothing against you because we lacked a ground assault class with access to a high tier weapon and again chaos and LSM laughed about it and talked shit.

    The only thing that pushed Eldar passed LSM and to roughly equal ground with Chaos was the addition of a ground assault that filled the ground/JPA disruption role, a slight range increase on some weapons, which the other faction equivalents got as well and Embolden which was bugged. Thats it, a missing class and a new spell.

    Eldar melee only has increased lunge distance and shorter recovery time between swings and isn't any more damaging than other factions unless they are under the effect of a banshees scream. I agree that lunge range and recovery time should be normalised, with the exception of the banshees lunge range to help them close the gap without the aid of a jump pack or higher armor and toughness of the other factions. Other classes the range and recovery needs to go I agree. Fun fact, JPA/Raptor/Storm boyz can cover relatively long distances while being almost completely invincible with their forward dash thanks to the almost full Iframes on it but thats ok right?

    Orks currently have the strongest melee in the game and their heavy attacks are 100% breaking the RPS and their staggers last longer than the should but theres not many complaints about that.

    Dbash is universally broken, that is not and Eldar specific thing and the ability for all factions to dodge out of it needs to go.

    A fully manned predator or gun wagon is 10x more dangerous than any Eldar vehicle but that never gets talked about, you guys don't even fully man them 99% of the time and you rarely guard rhinos. Chaos, Orks and Eldar do a far better job of protecting them along with AV players almost if not every game.

    Oh and having 50% of the games population means you are bound to have more idiots diluting the skilled players but thats ok you can't actually argue that. Not to mention almost all of the Eldar faction vets had to play the faction when they were borderline useless, learned how to play the faction extremely well to compensate and now that the faction is good those vets really are some of the best players in the game, hate to break it to you. MYST for example was winning games well before Eldar were considered OP and were in the broken state because they used class and faction knowledge and team work to compensate. Now they have the class and faction knowledge, coordination and faction strength. It's like that for many of the other Eldar guilds and solo players alike. Eldar chat in game chat is generaly far more active than LSM for example with constant vehicle, INC and order callouts along with constant way points from squad leaders guild or guildless. I rarely see that when playing LSM, the other factions quite a bit more. Are there bad players on Eldar, of course but we have a far smaller and condensed population so the bad players can't dilute the skilled players nearly as easily.

    There are a number of very skilled LSM guilds that put up great fights but a lot of their contributions are drowned out by the masses. Playing against a well coordinated and skilled LSM team is like playing against a whole new faction. During our 24 hour launch event one of our worst loses was against VM on Maggon. They completely smashed us, another great game was against a guild with the X tag. They put up an amazing defence on the walls of Agnathio and only fell apart once we were able to get inside and get a foothold. Games against PG are always tough fights etc. The faction is plenty capable of winning, it's not far behind the other factions in strength at all.
  9. Brother Harkus Harkus Arkhona Vanguard

    Why are you so mad :confused:
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  10. Elemir Swiftblade Warriant Arkhona Vanguard

    Not mad in the slightest, simply stating things.

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