So the general agreement on bolter ranges as they're related to the tabletop comes out to 40m. That's a standard infantry weapon handed out as though it were an assault rifle. Your standard pistol today has an effective range of 30-50m. The difference between these are insane. I know we have no confirmed ranges at this time, just some distances the devs are throwing around as they test things out, but 40m is less than half of an American Football field. I propose an at least 90m range on the bolters and work outwards from there.
I'm a great fan of realism in computer games but we can forget about it almost entirely in case of EC. Especially when it comes down to primary firearms range. Why? cos otherwise melee would not exist. Period. Melee is a religion in Wh40k, you cannot rule out this element of this universe without twisting it completely and breaking the lore to the point it would have nothing to do with Wh40k.
I'm not asking for realistic ranges because if I was I'd be pushing for 600+m bolters and I see the problems with that easy enough. But I also shouldn't have to be less than 40 feet away from Tom over there on the other end of things. I could spit on Tom at that distance. As such 90m is a VERY fair middle ground between 40 and 600m. It's not far enough away to negate melee but it also clears up the clutter and allows for more spaced battlefields.
Both will. Short range + spread of the gun + scarcity of ammo in EC (confirmed) and you end up with the ranged classes guys running to a distance of 15 meters up to point blank to ensure a kill, nobody will want to waste their precious ammo just for plinking, this game's about killing - and this will definitelly influence melee. PlaguePriest said: 90 meters is fine with me personally but will it be fine with the devs? - i dunno, take a look at this: Brent said: this is about a heavy bolter which is supposed to be a rather long range weapon but the long range is not even mentioned here, it's only said - decently balanced at a distance, but what distance?, such details really matter
40-50 meters effective range / 80 meters maximum range sounds fine - it's a pretty long distance Now, hitting something within this distance is a real question
Exactly, especially when you have a long TTK (time to kill) which in EC is 4 seconds for bolter against a marine (the last news we have).
regarding ranges there was a post from Brent Ellison in http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/thr...e-in-eternal-crusade.802/page-136#post-275855 Keep in mind that since this is an action game where TTKs are quite low and fire ranges are quite high. and this newer info kinda contradicts with the old info of 40meter bolters...so maybe they changed the test ranges?!
