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the ork cannon

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Destroyer-of-worlds, Mar 25, 2017.

  1. I just played a match on a map with two big gates. i saw our guys randdomly exploding and i asked what killed them and they said ork cannons. how come the orks get a gun that instakills with no warning at long range?
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  2. Cydonia Cydonia Well-Known Member

    Supress the Ork, their screen swings upwards wildly, kannon dealt with.
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  3. Fiesty_Won Fiesty_Won First Blood!

    Not sure what faction you play, so here ya go.

    Space Marines
    • Lascannon
    • Multimelta
    • Plasma Cannon
    • Grav Gun
    • Heavy bolters

    Orks
    • Zapgun
    • Dakka Deffgun
    • Deffcannon
    • Ace Dakka (Unique weapon, but important to include)

    Lascannon - Zapgun = 1 hit kill
    Multimelta - No equivalent = Burn DOT
    Plasma Cannon - Deffcannon = 1 hit down - 1 hit kill
    Grav gun - No equivalent = Snare and damage
    Heavy bolters - Dakka deffgun = ? hits to down
    No equivalent - Ace Dakka = 3 hit to down

    So the answer to your question is Assymetrical BALANCE. Space marines have 2 weapons that Orks don't have if we don't include the unique Ace Dakka.

    Thanks for being so narrow minded and playing only one faction. Good job!
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  4. Alb - Alb Alb Steam Early Access

    The ork Kannon is the best sniper rifle in the game imo. Nothing like out-sniping lascannon and stalker bolter kids who think they got you. Nope, kannon gots you.

    But real talk now; the Kannon is OP. And I'm still using and abusing it even through rank 5 on my ork. It's unreal. And yet people want to complain about autocannons with every breath.

    The bullet speed is crazy fast, accuracy is pinpoint, AoE is massive, and ragdoll AoE range is fairly huge. The thing diaper devastates some point holds. I got 55 kills on agnathio defence once (but still lost :V - the LSM lemmings were quite proud of their "victory") Just look at the plasma cannon (or even reaper launcher lol) and compare it to the kannon, it just isn't fair.
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  5. DoomJester DoomJester Arkhona Vanguard

    I'd advise if you're looking for ranged combat, the marines are the most consistently lethal and accurate, across the board, Eldar are kinda a mix between movement and lethality, chaos is a melee focused faction, but have decent fire support and Orks are an inconsistent range but strong melee. These are generalization on that note, not including every last player and weapon, more my experience with all four.

    I have to concur that all the races have their weapon. Marines use the plasma Cannon which is great for long range killing, I tend towards mortar fire personally. Eldar have the reaper launcher alt fire, which is like the kannon in that it shoots and flies straight and will kill you if it hits. Chaos have the autocannon which is accurate and hits hard, the plasma Cannon as well. Then Orks have the kannon and they make use of the deff beam or whatever it's called.
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  6. Fiesty_Won Fiesty_Won First Blood!

    It is a good weapon.....it is also the only "sniper" weapon the orks have.
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  7. Hal9000 Halcyon Well-Known Member

    The meltagun isn't even that great of an infantry weapon...and it's mediocre at AV. I would happily trade the melta, lascannon, AND the grav for a deffcannon. The thing is just ridiculous. No warning and then boom, one shot kill.

    Meanwhile our lascannon has a convenient laser that points right back to the wielder.

    Grav+melta doesn't = deffcannon. There is no asymmetrical balance between these weapons.
  8. 'EadThwacka Im_a_Turtle Arkhona Vanguard

    Oh look, another SM complaint thread. Guess Orks are getting nerfed again.
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  9. Tairos Recruit

    Think I was in this match, if so, was a fun one, haha. I think LSM are just too used to be able to super safely sit and casually snipe Orks. Our new snotlings have just grown up and finally gotten their Kannons.
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  10. Alb - Alb Alb Steam Early Access

    While I would normally happily subscribe to this way of thinking (my hatred-boner for lsm is ever erect), the ork Kannon really is too good right now.

    BUT, I really like the design of its mechanics; ie charge up big shot, and little shot tap fire. I wish the reaper launcher worked like that.

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