I was merely advising him on the weapons that are available to his race/role and are in no way inflicting upon your game.Whenever he would recommend that to you or not is his choice as a player.Jesus Uriel you are leading an RP...not a kindergarden.Also... 1.Bolt rounds are a solid ammunition,yes,but they can only be fired with bolt weapons.Thus...a Sniper Rifle cannot fire a bolt shell... Ork 'technology' cannot be counted for sh!t since it operates on what is essentially LOLZ!You are comparing cats and lions. 2. 3. That might be true...but I merely proposed him the weapon that is more efficient (on his query!) against daemonic opponents.I had no idea that in your RP such thing was possible.But overall Long-Las is more efficient against aetheric creatures anyway,due to its nature as a energy weapon,wheres,the blessings and enshriment of ammo is limited to low tier daemons.As a sniper (and all snipers worth their salt know this) you are going for a high value targets,mid-tier at least! 4.Needlers do not penetrate anything?Are you aware how a Needler weapon actually works?It has to penetrate to deliver the toxins (which can be blessed water).Also...it is a dual stage weapon,similiar to Long-Las but without the deficiencies that @MetalDog4 does not want. Also...viruses and diasases work on Daemons.A freakin program works on a Daemon and vice-versa! 5.Plasma is effective against everything?Ikr....I love plasma (y) . But we are free to assume on whatever weapon is effective against whatever target,because your RP,Uriel,is still bound by broad-spectrum cannon of WH40K. You offered a Techscorcist...I made a Techscorcist.I went on lengths to make one that is fully versed for both full-combat roles and fully non-combat roles.You did not say that it will be limited role and that I cannot unleash my character on bunch of Daemons!You think a forewarning might have been prudent BEFORE I put the effort of making Hyspasian Zeth,such as it is?
#1 Nobody wants Bolter Sniper Rifles? As for Ork technology - yes it still counts. Just because you don't understand it doesn't mean that it has no value. Their weapons mostly function through the Waaagh but still are eligible in comparisons. #3 That is why I should be asked first. And you are somewhat wrong. Holy Shells can be more efficient than energy weapons. It really depends on the individual daemon cases. For example Each daemon has a certain weapon he can be killed with. Even though it could be a rusty knife that is several thousands of years old. Also what is even low-tier, mid-tier and high-tier on your scale? Mid-tier for me would be pretty much proper lesser daemons like Blood Letters, Crushers, etc. Whereas High-Tier would be Greater Daemons and Daemon Princes for which you need entire rituals anyway. Low-Tier are ppl with daemon essence / gifts (even Mr. Bernstein would have fallen in this category) #4 Needlers do not penetrate crap, even Flak armor can stop them from penetrating, you need to hit really weak points to make sure it works. #5 Of course it is, but unless you can prove me in a reasonable manner why something should be more effective in a certain way - then I will overrule it. Las weapons for example are energy-based but still are very weak against anything with armor. While it can scorch and put holes into Flak armor, anything above that is pretty much well protected against Las weapons (save for cannons). And Holy Shells > Energy in my game - because it makes more sense to me as a person, in the lore and game mechanical wise. Since Holy Shells simply should be more valuable than regular ammo. Of course you can but in means of combat skills, you are still inferior to a full-blown Scion. Not in comparison to NPCs. In comparison to your fellow players.
So at this point I will just take whatever can reach out and touch something with a scope, since I am now the only Scion amongst a huge group of Grey Knights, I wanted to focus on the one thing they aren't that great at, which is ranged combat
Aye but Grey Knights aren't exactly subtle or quiet now are they? And as the underdog in nearly every way possible atm between the Inquisitors and grey knights, I have to have something
I suggest then the Solid-Shell Sniper Rifle. As said probably an IG-equivalent of the Astartes Sniper Rifle. @High_Adept_Zeth Another thing I forgot to mention. The main reason why you are not as efficient as the Scions and such in combat, is because your focus will remain on the Technical parts. If you would be as good as the scions in combat AND have unique interactive skills/talents, that would be kind of ... Unfair. I would punish them for being full-time soldiers for being *just* as good as a Techsorcist.
1.They can be compared with but the science behind it is non-existant,considering it focuses on aetheric power.Thus...they are not eligible. 3.You guessed 'my' power scale of daemons (even though I thought that is the scaling (by mere logical deduction) of an entire fandom...).And...I`ve never actually saw or read the case were a 'Holy Shell' was more efficient then an energy weapon.But you are generalizing,entering in a wider debate.No thing of fate can match the armories of Arcana Mechanicum.And...standard canon laws still apply to your RP,and I have merely comparing a better weapon. 4.They actually do mate.They penetrate armor of a tank (not the actual needle but the energy discharge of the weapon that comes before it). The Horus Heresy - Book One: Betrayal (Imperial Armour), pg. 231 (of which I have a copy of!) The Horus Heresy - Book One: Betrayal (Imperial Armour), pg. 231 It is so efficient a weapon (in both Pistol and Sniper Rifle versions) that even Eldar use it. That is the word of canon mate...and it makes your previous statement unreasonable (again) or questionable,at best.Unless that's another change you have done in your RP.On which manner...I must ask what else have you changed?Because I become to doubt in my technical knowledge of the WH40K and how it could be any useful to your RP in my role as a Techscorcist. Sure thing mate.That sounds reasonable. Its tech-heresy...since in my later stages I can leave a regular Astartes in dust...but I`ll concede and wear a lab coat (rust-red robe) once more When can I join?
You quote the horus heresy at which times las weapons were much much more efficient, no? The lexicanum however does not give the footnotes of where they come, so I gotta trust you on that. That Eldar weapons are far more efficient is obvious to me. And generally I count Eldar weapons as better. Although on matters of Plasma it is questionable since Eldar plasma is less destructive, but cannot overheat. As for holy and silver weapons.... http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Crossbow And you can join whenever you want, I already implied you are along us - just step on the bridge ^^ And your last part regards your power levels..... Yeah perhaps. A regular Astartes, probably less so a Captain or even GK
Las is just as good or even better now than during the Heresy, since its actual developed tech and not STC
