You keep flip flopping all over my posts. It is annoying. You always seem to disregard previous posts.
How so? I am just applying your logic to current day politics, to show you, how twisted your logic has become.
Because you are complety disregarding all of my previous posts, to make your argument more valid. Anyways im out for a bit.
I am not disregarding your posts. Actually, I am very precisely applying your posts logic to the situation I am talking about. So u can notice the twisted nature of your logic. If u believe, I disregarded something > point it out. Quote what part of your posts make my points invalid? Dont just blame me for something I didnt do.
Because you fail to take every part of what im saying into account.You pick the parts you like. For instance you last post.
It's an odd thing with Ukraine. It isn't so black and white who the bad guys are. Things didn't go the way the CIA and the new Ukrainian Gov. wanted it to go. Most certainly they didn't want Russia doing what they are doing. Part of the new Ukrainian Government being a Neo Nazi Fascist party with seats in the house isn't helping matters. Russia is one of the last nations on Earth devoted to never seeing them ever return to power, so I believe that has a little something to do with things. Also, Russia has A LOT of infrastructure going through and within the Ukraine. Pipelines being the major pieces. Also, Russia has had the Black Sea Fleet stationed in the Crimea since the late 1700's. So, when the U.S media sensationalized things saying the Russians invaded Crimea with troops, those troops and assets were already there and had been for a LONG time. Once the Government had fallen they moved to secure the safety of their assets. That's it. The U.S would have done nothing different, actually, they may have been more violent about things. During the unrest and coup, with all those protestors being shot in that square, it's come out that it was snipers on the side of the protestors who were shooting them to blame the Presidents forces. The whole thing is a disaster and lies. Regarind Russia moving in to secure territory in Eastern Ukraine to seize ground with Russian speaking people, I can't really say at this point. Probably to secure it and eventually give it up if he's forced to make concessions because he won't be giving back the Crimea. Which isn't that big a deal. Crimea used to be its own small nation and joined the Ukraine. It has a rather large Russian speaking population. He could turn the natural gas pipes off at any time and we'd see a crisis in Europe we haven't seen in a long time. Putin is already working on divesting himself away from the West and more with China/Asia. Gas Pipelines http://gdb.voanews.com/6B6EB439-0BC7-4176-BFB3-7B14F639D1C4_w640_s.png
You still didnt point out what parts of your posts make my points invalid. U just claim, that I failed to take into account some parts of your posts. What parts I didnt take into account? For now, I only see defensive complaints, aka, -U ignoring parts of my posts!!! -Which parts exatly? - Some of them!!! It was part of the Russian Empire, before the Ussr. At the time of the Ussr, Crimea was gifted to ucraine for bureaucratic reasons. Aka, "We all are one country, but crimea is closer to you guys, so it would be more convenient, if it would be governed from the closer control centre." smth like this. And when Ussr fallen, Ucraine took crimea with them, even though their rights on it was purely on the paper and it was clearly Russian territory.
me-Yes they did conquer all worlds, under a belief. Im not saying it is good to kill all of the innocents, but to achieve the goal, some things had to happen. Even the emperor felt severe remorse at this you- So...Russians do have the rights to conquer Ukraine now? And, actually, all the previous territory of USSR. Right? Since this territory was part of our country before? By your logic, non the less. We would even grief a little, about all lifes lost. You just take this point, and ignore all my other ones, to validate your point. Plus all of my quotes, which are worth more than anything you say, you completly ignore. Case in point, im done with this debate
It's a pragmatic invasion and not one that Russia has taken likely. If the U.S is going to meddle in politics and war right on their border, the Red Bear won't take that lightly.
