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Support Characters (Painboys, Apothecaries, Warlocks, Sorcerers)

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Heironymus, May 1, 2017.

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Most powerful support in this current "Meta"?

  1. Painboyz

  2. Sorcerers

  3. Apothecaries

  4. Warlocks

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  1. Slird Slird Active Member

    So warlock is a bad support because players can't play support well? =)
    If replace any other support class with apoth you will suffer for this immediately. Oh... Except dokta, i mean %)
    Apoth can't use it. You need tactical for it.
    You are Welcome!
    You need support team, not vice versa. Jinx is great tool for fire management too.
    If you keep channel on someone who isn't being shot it is your mistake. Actually, charge regen rate is fast.
    You can cover any choke-point with Protect. Bubble is not so small as you point this. Even in pugs you can use it well, especially in defence. You can move in this state like any other in ADS state of fire. You really need something stunning to counter that. And fast.
    Yeap, but they have their own work to do. Actually you don't need bunch of warlocks, and you will be awarded for the quality of your job.
    - Melee damage buff right now have equal efficiency as Destructor.
    - Survival vial don't provide 40s HoT, only burst heal like default vial.
    - medinade provide HoT buff for 18 sec, but can revive only in 5 sec.
    - Actually you have near equal tools in healing aspect
    - Nart dont deal more damage than chainsword. Only if win all RPS.
    Rly? You can use nades and your sword, so warlock can use 4 too.
    It isn't true. Especially when you confront eldar because of dramatically shorter TTK. And you actually can outheal bolter fire with your tools in the same manner as apo. Nobody can outheal headshots.
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  2. Asyran Eldritch Arkhona Vanguard

    If by AoE long range heal you mean a beam that has an AoE of about 1 step from the centre than yes.

    And yes, Enhance costs a lot. Between Embolden and Enhance, you will be mana starved. Not to mention both require to move to the target area and cast.

  3. Or the Sorc or Warlock targets the ground, casts a spell(2 second cast time) and a swirling mass of warp energy appears at that location for X amount of seconds healing and/or buffing their allies. The same could be done with a direct damage or damage over time ability. Very similar to the old Sorc pool of death from Warhammer Online.
  4. Slird Slird Active Member

    You have a loooong step.
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    Actually, It is the same AOE as medinade\beacon AOE. Slaanesh Frenzy or Flesh Circle equal too.

    Embolden - 30 charge, Enhance - 50 charge. You can regenerate 80 charge in 10 sec.
    Learn to resource management. It is not so hard as in real life.
    Apothecary need to go even CLOSER to his SINGLE patient.
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  5. Doge TheAngryDoge Active Member

    Hey look, Eldar deflecting to another point. In the warlock and sorc scenario neither the medic nor his patient have to stand still and suck headshots. Both can be moving. Hell, given the right terrain the healer could be out of line of sight.
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  6. Asyran Eldritch Arkhona Vanguard

    Would be nice if the game actually accurately portrayed the spell VFX.

    If I have 125 charge. I can cast 1 Enhance and 2 Emboldens. Then I am out of mana for a while. It's not unheard of to cast that many Emboldens, maybe someone got downed and I have to recast it. Or maybe someone won't stay still.

    Warlocks are not good healers. That is the just their nature. Eldar don't have enough health to heal a lot of the time and Warlocks have 2 spells to heal. Warlocks excel at buffing, that is their niche.

    Stop trying to make it sound so bad for Apothecaries. If you spec right you can get a quick cast instant-full health rez. Apothecaries are probably the best healers in game. However the only thing that contradicts this is Foul Regen. Apoth syringe and Foul Regen are probably some of the only heals that can let someone survive a tonne of small arms fire.
  7. Obsidian Obsidian Confessor

    Eldar players are out of their minds as it seems. Range aoe heal, burst aoe heal, AoE 50 % damage reduction, 20% more ranged dps and damage reduction in AoE, 50% ranged chain voulnerability to damage. Aaaand the nest healer/support is... apoc?
    With what? An ability to give 30 percent damage reduction to each individul point blank for 40 sec? Oh.. bolter.
    People, if a bolter id your point - do not play support, play some DD.
  8. Asyran Eldritch Arkhona Vanguard

    I said healer, not support. They are all good supports, just in different ways (except painboy).

    P.S. Embolden is not a burst heal, it applies a HoT to everyone affected.
  9. Catnium Catnium Well-Known Member

    you do realise you just cast the spell when they are down and they will rise again right ?
    also he might have a knife . but i can kill you with a teaspoon irl , imagine what a knife could do
  10. Asyran Eldritch Arkhona Vanguard

    Read previous posts, mana is limited if you packed enhance (best second spell for PuGs).

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