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Sun rifle tweaks/uniques?

Discussion in 'Eldar' started by Phyrak, Apr 9, 2017.

  1. Phyrak Phyrak Cipher

    Hey there,

    Playing with hawks is fun (though, still feels clunky as if on a rail flying around...)

    Sun rifles have the lowest hit damage in game.

    As it stands, Solar flare - the unique sun rifle is stuck to burst fire mode and doesn't do too much

    One of three potentials could be useful.

    Give solar flare a minor heat/fire DoT that increases based on burst as any other DoT does

    Or

    Introduce a new sun rifle which is a single shot (still keeping with the low damage) but produces high heat/fire DoT because, SUN rifle

    Or

    Give sun rifles a small DoT at base and have it scale up with the craftsmanship of the weapon/have mods that increase it - unique and master crafted having the highest

    Thoughts?

    -Phyrak
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  2. Judasilfarion Silfarion Drill Abbott

    The sunrifle is fine as it is. The way it fucks up your screen and suppresses you is enough to shut down and entire nest of enemies. Great for supporting allied pushes, especially considering how mobile the user is

    Also the point of the sunrifle isn't to set people on fire. It's called a sunrifle because the lasers it shoots are bright as the sun, not as hot as the sun. That would make it a plasma gun, and for that the Eldar have starcannons.
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  3. Phyrak Phyrak Cipher

    Aye,

    Just having some fun with names and mechanics :p

    Though, a sun rifle that actually burns as a plasma DoT akin to Abadons grace or the burny crosious arcanium or whatever it is called would be rad
  4. Jaywalker Jaywalker Steam Early Access

    Do you even math?

    Going by the UI numbers, it's highest raw DPS of all weapons available to the Swooping Hawk, and ever since they fixed the burstfire modes for most weapons, those numbers may very well be accurate.
  5. Phyrak Phyrak Cipher

    I suck at maths :p

    I would like a single shot burny sun rifle though :D
  6. No, you're going the wrong way. The sun rifle is supposed to have a noticeably larger rate of fire.
  7. Phyrak Phyrak Cipher

    Nothing with having some fun with a unique weapon :p
  8. Utherix Utherix Firebrand

    Uh, what? No it isn't.
    Lasblaster: 192 DPS
    Hawk's Talon: 193.3 DPS and +20 Pen
    Sunrifle: 176 DPS
  9. I don't see the point in increasing the sunrifle's damage potential, we already have the hawk's talon for that.

    IMO you take the sunrifle as a support weapon for the suppression and blind. Improving its ability to deal suppression (as suppression is a tad weak) would be one way to improve it without overlapping the hawk's talon.

    Another (and my preferred) method of improving the sunrifle would be to make its blind/suppression not effect Eldar. Currently the sunrifle is limited by the fact that firing from behind teammates will effect them too, while being in frontlines as a hawk is suicide. Yes, you can attack from another angle, but in the confines of a cap point that's easier said than done and the effect radius is so large you often suppress your allies anyway.
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  10. Utherix Utherix Firebrand

    Why the hell would you use the sunrifle as a "support weapon"? Use the Reaper if you must suppress. It's far better to kill an enemy than to suppress them. A swooping hawk spamming that pea shooter at enemies isn't going to help win a match. A Hawk flanking their heavies and taking a couple out with the Hawk's Talon is.

    They should up the damage on the Sunrifle to simply be a 100LP more expensive Lasblaster.

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