It's my understanding the faction leaders will be figureheads, not directly participating in ship boarding actions or combat on the planet. At least for Launch. Now for some pure speculation and hoping... We might see them in cutscenes or get to interact with our character's faction leader via storyline.
Really happy with Belial as the Faction Leader. And all the Space Wolves tears are like the icing on the cake to me Please don't mind me and whine a little more, I'm enjoying this
I think Belial is faction leader just because the story will involve the Fallen a lot. Which is fine with me, I'm curious where this will lead. Also us Eldar might benefit from it.
14. Will Jain Zar (or other faction leaders) ever get to take to the field? David Ghozland: Faction leaders are more high level characters in charge of the faction than actual units on the field. We are investigating the possibility to use them for events, but I cannot promise anything at this point. http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/q-a-answers-compilation-thread.32349/page-2
Oooooh, Zaeryn, you look at the online wiki's for your lore. That explains so much now. You realise that unless there are specific citations on those sentences they are worthless right? I can go on to that site right now and edit whatever I want. Lexicanum is a more secure site, they are more vigilant with their sources and references, but still. Best to go straight to your published and certified sources. Otherwise you'll make a fool of yourself. For example, this quote? It's not cited or referenced. In fact there isn't a single citation in that entire segment. Why? Because those words are not written by a GW employee or writer, they are written by just some random person who likes 40K. This information isn't even on Lexicanum either. It's just what someone wrote because they liked the idea of it. I have the codex right here in front of me. That is how I have been citing specific pages for the lore I am giving you. It says nowhere here the size of a Great Company, only that they are larger. Fifty marines larger? One hundred? Three hundred? Hopefully you see what I am trying to say here. So, Wrong? You’ll have to take that up with the GW writers I’m afraid. I’ve cited my lore references by the page. That means you can go and look at the words with your eyes and see that I’m not just making this stuff up. So, still not dissing them. Misrepresenting them in your eyes maybe. So, again, not cited or GW published material? So… supposition? I can’t debate you with you if you’re basing your argument on fantasies. It says it here, it says it right here: (Codex: Space Wolves (2nd Edition) p.9) & (Codex: Space Wolves (5th Edition) p.51-54) So, there you go. That is straight out of the lore, straight out of GW published material. So, you’re wrong. They key word here being INTENDED. They were INTENDED to be. As numerous as their genetic forebears, so the Space Wolves legion. The actual size of the Space Wolves Legion has not been published, like the sizes of most the other Legions has been, but they are mentioned as being one of the smallest legions. If we look at who we know to be the smallest legion, the Thousand Sons, who were 10,000 marines strong before the incident on Prospero, then we can assume the Space Wolves were of a similar size or smaller, but unlikely to be larger. Given their casualties passed that point (Prospero, Horus Heresy, etc.) and the fact that they only divided once gives us a pretty good impression of their strength. But have some more words directly supported by the GW published material. (Codex: Space Wolves (2nd Edition) p.9) & (Codex: Space Wolves (5th Edition) p.51-54) Key words here being ‘relatively unscathed from the Horus Heresy’. Do you know how battered the Legions would have been after the Heresy? More than decimated. That means that more than 1 in 10 Marines would have died. The Legions were reduced. That is the result of Astartes on Astartes combat. It’s estimated that the Ultramarines lost 100,000 Astartes on Calth alone. Can you imagine how much more severe the Space Wolves casualties would have been, given their smaller Legion size? Can you imagine their casualties on Prospero alone? Where we have entire paragraphs and chapters devoted to Space Wolves getting shredded by psychic storms? Think about it. The only sourced referenced here is: Again, all this says is ‘much greater’, but what does that even mean? 100 Marines is A LOT of Marines. Because of their nature, you don’t need to have a billion Space Marines to say you have a lot. I’m sure a lot of Imperial Guard generals lose control of their bowels when they hear that even a single squad of Astartes has come to support them. So ‘much greater’ could mean anything from fifty more to two hundred more. The thing to focus on is that a number isn’t given. So any number that you pull out of the hat from that point on is exactly that, a fiction. No one has to believe you. It’s not certified information. It’s not lore. Ad hominem. A logical fallacy. Moving on. So, four examples from the Great Crusade era where mostly all the legions were known to fight in the same theatre from time to time, especially taking into consideration the composition of the Expedition Fleets. But fighting in the same theatre and actually CO-OPERATING are two entirely different things. Without further, specific information on the details of the battles, those examples contribute nothing to your point. I didn’t make the choice. I’ve even said many times before that there could be better choices. Here, let’s have a look shall we. #66 #85 #92 So this is officially the fourth time I’m saying it. I didn’t choose Belial, but I stick by bEhaviour’s choice because I recognize that A) it’s a good narrative plot device, B) it is diversity, C) it’s not my choice, D) It’s not your choice, E) It’s got nothing to do with gameplay, F) It will have 0 effect on battle outcomes, G) it will have 0 effect on your ability to play the game. I could probably get through the alphabet here but hopefully I’ve driven the point home. For the fourth time. Right. So you agree with me. They don’t trust other forces. This naturally inhibits their ability to mesh with them in a tactical sense. Ergo a Space Wolf leader is not the best choice. That’s all I’ve been saying this whole time. Sure, Belial isn’t the best choice, but neither is a Space Wolf. That’s also why I’ve been recommending other commanders. I know the Space Wolves have great commanders. They just tend to be better, with exception of course, at doing their own thing. Their ‘own thing’ is very much not compatible, on majority, with other Imperial methods. So, make up your mind about what point you’re trying to make here, because you’re switching stories on us. Unless you mean to insinuate that 5 Great Companies is ‘less numbers’ than other Chapters, which would defeat your point entirely. Uh, maybe because I don’t write the lore? But, like I said before, because normal Chapters only have 1000 Marines, and so can only divide their force nine times (exempting 10th scouts). There are more than 9 battles happening at any one time in the Galaxy. That is why. So one guy says he doesn’t like the DA and this affirms all your opinions ever? Look at the next seven replies from individual members after that. That is the whole first page btw. Not a single DA bash. Not one. You are reaching here, buddy, really, really reaching. Well. Kind of. See: So… this… Let me assure you, I really, REALLY like the Space Wolves. But I like them for what they are, I like them for the role they fulfil, I like them for NOT being jacks of all trades, I like them for their flaws. I think I’ve officially said enough on this topic now. Literally every single point I’ve made has been cited and referenced. That means there is almost zero opinion here and almost 100% objective fact and extrapolation based on GW published material. As a last unrelated point, Let us dispense with the unjustified trash talk shall we? It’s doing nothing good for either of us. Let’s be better than that. Right then. Feel free to go ahead and have the last word. A Wolf’s pride must surely demand it.
I like the idea of it being a dark angel, makes sense with the teaser and the fact there is a fallen somewhere, if it was anyone else the dark angels would mess this up by ignoring commands (gah this is why I have a hard time deciding on a fav. faction they all suck in some way lol). Though I was looking forward to a space wolf vs ork war seeing as I will be playing as an ork and da boss likes ta kill the space puppies
Out of the four original Chapters I would likely have chosen a Blood Angel leader, but I do like Belial a lot. The Dark Angels are my second favorite First Founding Loyalist Chapter. The opportunity to hunt down Fallen is too good to pass up! I thought the choices for the new Space Marine faction were good, although the Iron hands are my least favorite First Founding Chapter. Imperial Fists are obviously number one in my book, so that made my incredibly happy, and I like the Raven Guard. The Emperor's Praetorians are #1 though, and we NEED to win this vote! There is no way we can have a 40K MMO with no Imperial Fists!
I would dearly love Imperial Fists to be in, how can you say no to this guy, seriously look at that axe. They need to be in so he can look exactly this awesome on the battlefield: You know what it is. . Red 'n Yello Red 'n Yello View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UePtoxDhJSw
