I heard there was a short story or quip(no idea if canon) of Gork and Mork showing up to beat the shit out of Khorne for trying to take their Orks.
Yes but in the same way MoN adds toughness which in EC equals about half a seconds extra survivability at most. Then they have shields on top of that which equals a crap ton more. This is why Chaos get the extra cap class because they forgo the extra survivability offered by shields. Personally I'd love to exchange that for a shield because MoN is pretty much useless compared to the survivability shields offer.
ok .... if this wasnt completely devoid of logic ..... look at LSM vs CSM ONLY !!! Tons of things we have chaos has the exact same as far as armor/basic weapons so lets take them right out of the conversation. in all of those classes even our weakest LSM classes chaos has the opportunity to get either :: +35 toughness over us which is between 10-20% damage reduction better on a full build. OR they can take MoT and get more LP efficiency out of every purchase of armor thus making the MOZ better TTL than any LSM item for less LP AND making armor more LP efficient when taken in other slots. thier healer is safer and thier aoe heal does the same thing out single target defense heal does. they have an anti air heatseeking newb cannon that obliterates JPA's after one shot with a homing attack that the havok doesn't even have to engage or manage it just naturally happens because .... flak. This SAME WEAPON works on vehicles and non flying infantry just fine as well as emplacements. Thus negating the only class the heavy is supposed to be weak to. and ask yourself what does LSM get that they can leverage against chaos ? the stalker bolter ? have you seen the stuff ive been posting ive had 9 .....9 HEADSHOTS do 0 damage because of glitches or intended terrible spread and recoil. And a shield ? the shield is presently glitching all to hell and ultimately you have to drop the shield so if you drop the shield to engage guess what you are back to square one that guy still has toughness on you and a better TTL he can make more mistakes than you can and has more time to react to incoming battle condition changes. If you think these factions are even you are insane ..... certafiably. and most people realize that chaos is loing its stranglehold to eldar and orks .... which means those factions are CLOSER TO CHAOS THAN THEY ARE TO LSM ....... you dont need stats .... you dont need to make up pretend arguments that our player base is worse so you can puff your ego .... our most organized and effective guilds are reporting and experiencing and fully taking in what is happening to them and they theory craft day and night to find a way to defeat it. the answer is PC and Apoths, because the PC is so broken it levels the playing field to "everyone dies if they get hit always" and apoth can throw down a beacon before engaging in melee and thier poison damage in the hands of a melee vet does better DPS than either GA or JPA and if they go down the beacon can pick them up if the othe rperson gets engaged or shot by plasma .... its WHY you see any wins at all ... and believe me the PC will and should get nerfed .... but with it goes the last viable ranged weapon the LSM have ..... the Apoth buff they plan is way off base buffing the apoth will have no effect on the tactical save maybe making him even less viable an option.... if you look at orks they have faster attack animations for melee save a few instances particularly bad on fierces than LSM so do eldar and both factions have harder hitting weapons that HAVENT BEEN NERFED like the electrified choppa which still one shot me from the front last night, and banshees and SS move so fast with 1-2 swipe kills they can almost complete 2 attacks in our 1 animation with higher or equal damage numbers but only a 20% reduction in how hard it is to do normal unmitigated damage to them and then only on certain classes..... thier healer is every bit as BS as the apoth and painboy remember painboy/apoth/sorcerer are all equal to assaults for TTK in melee but they are al;so healers, and also have comparable ranged wepaons to the tactical and special gear thats more LP efficient than GA gets at tanking up .....
You are correct, I misspoke. I should have stated that the Psychic field of the WAAaaagghh! Prevents the corruption of chaos and in the rare instance a small group of orks is left alone or the rarer instance that a Singular Ork finds self belief in himself and not his warboss (very old Nob) and then attracts the attention of Khorne ( the only chaos god known to have corrupted and possessed orks with daemons) who actually has a use for that singular or small group of orks, they can be corrupted. Even Tuska the Daemon Slayer remains pure to his Waaaagh reborn daily to fight elite hordes of blood letters at the foot of the brass citadel. Tuska's WAaaagggh was so powerful he plowed his space hulk into the eye of terror all for the glory of a greater battle. Toppling several chaos planets until crashing into a flesh planet and neutering The Blood Prince of Khorne before expiring . So yes... Resistant, You cant cite them for naturally doing what another's god corrupts other races into.
its not LITERALLY one hit but it might as well be ..... if you get wingclipped by it it takes like 3 seconds to be able to move again. http://plays.tv/video/57fdb46d63b64...hot-lasted-so-long-couldnt-anything?from=user and i LITERALLY could have died form that first shot from the fire and i have artificer on and the 50 LP +12 armor slot 1 and both armor trinkets. heres the stalker bolter vidi threw up most recently. http://plays.tv/video/57fdb06e18df33173c/stalker-bolter-is-still-crap-incarnate-?from=user
Most of those videos look like connection issue related. Ignore the displayed ping if you in another region. If your in north america you may have some packet loss (primarily talking about the eldar immune to melee and the dblock not stunning). As far as the plasma cannon killing you when you ground slammed he most likely shot 100 milliseconds before you landed or something close to that. The stalker bolter, bad angle. Why didn't you move? Yes the cross hair bug they haven't fixed yet is annoying, however I have never allowed it to out think me. I do not believe ground slam as ever visibly damaged rhinos, i may be wrong. It Does suck were still getting stuck on nothing.
i didnt move because it doenst matter where you take it it shoots that bad ..... its not lag .... i downloaded the game in 15 minutes or less when i first bought it .. i have the second highest internet residentially available in my area ... hardlined. .... it doesnt matter when he shot he hit me one time and it wing clipped me to 15% hp left with a burn debuff on me and then i was stunned even after i fell to the ground forever, i barely started being able to turn when the second round hit doing anothe 270 ish damage
I'm just saying in 321 hours I have not had those issues. Except the stuck on nothing, no damage to vehicles during ground slams and the sticky reticule you had on the stalker bolter, which I always fixed simply by moving to a better angle like right in front/below instead of off to the left / below. Also the comming out of stun rapidly is a known bug being worked on, and you clearly missed the ork twice in "melee immune orks" For an It tech you would think you would have an understanding of the difference in bandwidth for one large download and hundreds of miniscule downloads. For all i Know you still have your Nagle algorithm enabled depending on OS. Based on your video "Interesting one shot" I have to believe your client is not updating the visuals in sync. It appears You took back attack damage while facing the power attack. This would coincide with you seeing yourself facing the enemy when the attack launched, however on he server side you were still facing away. I am not 100% on the full damage of a power attack from a damage upgraded force axe however and it is obvious you have an offensive build (powerfist) instead of defensive.
I thought fighting Orks in melee was supposed to be more difficult than any other race. The presented changes by development had done exactly that, so great success! People are upset because they can no longer ROFL stomp Orks in melee. Well sorry that it is no longer the case, Orks actually are formidable at something now. They are no longer the worse faction of EC. As a space marine a few things that worked for me, gets me around 20-30 kills a match. 1. Bullets 2. Grenades 3. Kill painboys and their beer mugs 4. Backstabbing Orks that are melee'ing teammates
