Watched it earlier. Entirely runs on the premise that Curze: A, had a body double possibly from Fabius. I find it highly unlikely that such an event would go unnoticed by all of the Night Lords that a new Curze arrived. B, A Night Lord who looks almost identical to Curze stood in for him, which could happen since Night Lords would do anything Curze said but for Curze to then somehow blend in with other Night Lords or escape from the other Night Lords without them noticing is odd. Night Lords although dislike each other, know each other very well. Comes with the territory of knowing your brother would shoot you in the back if it benefited him and they could get away with it. Then when the Night Lords are on full alert catching the Assassin after Talos mentions she has the Night Haunter's stuff they might lax security but the Night Lords didn't leave the system till years later. Only when the Ultramarines and their Successors finally decided to fight against the Night Lords did they leave the system as they were heavily outnumbered and what not. Now could Curze hide there and wait? Sure, but to what end? Be stranded in the middle of nowhere with no one? Rule over a planet which he'd leave to be butchered by Night Lords millennia later? An Astarte wouldn't be a good body double anyway since the Assassin is freaked out by the Night Haunter's head since it doesn't bleed for a time. Any other Astarte bleeds but then stops if their body has enough time to clot. I assume Primarch's clot almost instantly or some are faster than others due to Primarchs having different abilities, Curze could in all possibilities have managed to escape. If it wasn't for the assassin having Curze's head and doing these things. I still am 100% Curze is dead. He cannot return, I am more adamant that Sevatar would be more likely to return. Only because Sevatar is an unknown at this time. Many claim he's dead but others aren't so sure.
I would prefer Sevatar return because he was a badass and not a criminal scumbag like most nightlords
Well depends on the Night Lord in question... Many do act like fucking idiots. It usually is more close knit groups which distrust each other but prefer them to others and then when it comes onto the larger scale, the worst Night Lord like lets say someone like Ruven I think it was who left the Night Lords to join the Black Legion would be more liked than another Legionary. But if there wasn't another Legion to deal with they'd be a black sheep of the Night Lords who even the Night Lords hate more than usual and if he happened to be under the command of someone who had a reason to hate them more like Talos did then they'd not last long. Still need to get my hands on that E-Book about First Claw Pre-Heresy. Many Night Lords do have a sense of honour and what not. Only to those who deserve it though. There was a Night Lord group within Talos's group can't remember which claw they were who wanted to kill Uzaz I think because he'd killed one of theirs. Ended with Talos's Claw and mainly Xarl killing them. Only their claw leader was left alive and he wanted to die from a weapon other than the War Sage's Bolter as it'd be a disgraceful death. This was a guy who was a rapist on Nostromo before joining the Night Lords. Night Lords can do despicable things but they do have a sense of honour and what not at times. Just depends on who you're dealing with. Can't remember their names in "Pharos" but there are two brothers in there and one of them declares that this Smurf deserves a clean death for his actions. The Pale Count who is a massive cunt declared The Headsman (Kellenkir?) be allowed to kill him as a boon to him as he's rather disobedient at times and he was also rather sadistic at times when teaching them of his philosophy of death. The Night Lords portrayed in Pharos were kinda meh in my opinion. The Night Lords personalities were great, just that the portrayal of them in combat at times was wut... They're Astartes and wouldn't be trigger happy... A squad of Guardsmen militia match them for a time... Ok...
Urzas was cool, i feel bad for him. The good night lords like Sevatar were crude but... not criminal filth like the shits that infiltrated the legion Even Talos was a bit of a fuck
I'm sorry but when did GW actually say we could accept what we want as Canon? Because that would mean we can also reject what background we want and say it's not Canon. I've always been of the position that the 40K background is Canon only as long as it doesn't contradict more recent 40K Lore. Plus BL and FW 40K background is only Canon as long as it doesn't contradict the current 40K Lore found in Codexes and the Rulebook.
"I'll happily be your tree. But I'm not sure you'll hear much of a crash. I weary of this question, and I weary of typing it all in yet again, yet again. I think the real problem for me, and I speak for no other, is that the topic as a "big question" doesn't matter. It's all as true as everything else, and all just as false/half-remembered/sort-of-true. The answer you are seeking is "Yes and no" or perhaps "Sometimes". And for me, that's the end of it. Now, ask us some specifics, eg can Black Templars spit acid and we can answer that one, and many others. But again note thet answer may well be "sometimes" or "it varies" or "depends". But is it all true? Yes and no. Even though some of it is plainly contradictory? Yes and no. Do we deliberately contradict, retell with differences? Yes we do. Is the newer the stuff the truer it is? Yes and no. In some cases is it true that the older stuff is the truest? Yes and no. Maybe and sometimes. Depends and it varies. It's a decaying universe without GPS and galaxy-wide communication, where precious facts are clung to long after they have been changed out of all recognition. Read A Canticle for Liebowitz by Walter M Miller, about monks toiling to hold onto facts in the aftermath of a nucelar war; that nails it for me. Sorry, too much splurge here. Not meant to sound stroppy. To attempt answer the initial question: What is GW's definition of canon? Perhaps we don't have one. Sometimes and maybe. Or perhaps we do and I'm not telling you." -Marc Gascoigne https://community.fantasyflightgames.com/topic/6879-games-workshop-warhammer-canon/
Alright, you're right, not that I didn't know about the canon conflict beforehand. I was pointing out that as of today's lore, they were different chapters. Now can we drop this? Everything in a Codex overrules everything before it, not other things like books. Everything except a Codex and maybe the HH books is open to interpretation. Codex is canon, everything else is believe what you want, with some exceptions.
