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So This Is Where The Heretics Reside?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussions' started by Tiberius-Publicus, Oct 23, 2013.

  1. dx144 dx144 Well-Known Member

    Keep getting fucked by Daemons, bet you enjoy it.

    Not bad, gonna go actually do something like killing a Craftworld.
  2. Lorgar, when he is able to control his psyker powers is 3-5 strongest psyker in the galaxy
    He also made Khorne's chosen Bloodthirster his bitch to prove himself worthy in single combat in the warp
  3. Actually they took steps to avoid hitting Russia as well, they communicated their intentions to avoid committing an act of war against Russia.
  4. That's cute, reject Legionnaire, but we do the fucking. Our handy dandy cheaters guide to the warp makes us the masters of daemons, not the other way around.

    You enjoy scrounging for scraps, I'll go build a reality tearing tower of fuck yourself.
  5. dx144 dx144 Well-Known Member

    Go tell Maggie that. Sure he'll play mental gymnastics with Lorgar. Lorgar might be an incredibly powerful psyker but he wouldn't be able to contend with Magnus due to it just being Magnus. Magnus has done things like clouding a world of knowledge outside it, find a ship in the Warp and protect an Astarte from immolation and tear a couple of Eldar Titans apart with his mind alone.

    It is still quite possible that Khorne allowed Lorgar to win solely to make him feel more confident as well as Lorgar is unlikely to follow a new group of "Gods" if they beat him and try to kill him when he meets them.

    They used Lorgar just like they did everyone else.

    It isn't a clear cut, Lorgar is Strong! Lorgar is most powerful!

    Chaos Gods even Khorne will use strategies to bend people to their will.

    This wasn't just Khorne or Tzeentch, it was a combined effort, for all we know Khorne was the most likely to go against this idea and decided that without testing Lorgar he'd have doubts about them so by having Lorgar fight a Greater Daemon he could win, feel better and feel he earned the respect of the Gods by doing this.

    Horus who is arguably the strongest of all Primarchs in different ways was used as nothing but a pawn and I find it unlikely that they consider any of their followers as more than that, some pawns are just used a different points in the game, some are sacrificed at the start, some in a final play.

    More the point they're targeting an ally of Russia on an assumption. We've seen no evidence of Assad being behind this attack and the previous attack is shoddy with no super solid evidence.

    With the previous chemical attack and the amount of condemnation Assad got and the possibility of America and other Western Nations being dragged into a war with them kinda puts them off using them.

    Assad against the Rebels has been winning, why jeopardise that with Chemical Weapons?

    It clearly isn't a major strike knocking out the Syrian Rebels, so that isn't it and if the Syrian Rebel leaders were there they could have easily enough just bombed the crap out of it rather than use chemical warfare.

    At least Night Lords can still be called Legionnaires and not abominations that sell their flesh away. Seem quite deluded in your dealing with Daemons... Must be to let them inside you...

    Enjoy playing with Daemon dicks, I'll go out and actually fight the Imperium rather than pleasure a Daemon.
  6. Caentyr Caentyr Subordinate

    Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait WAAAAAAIT!
    which phoenix lord?
    because if it's Jain Zar again I couldn't care less.
    It's funny because both of you are members of your respective fan-cults and can't BARE to see your fav primarch on equal standing with the other. It just proves my point on how equal standing these guys are. Two sides of the same coin.

    @The_Dokta : "DON'T YOU COMPARE GLORIOUS LORGAR TO THAT ARROGANT CORPSE WORSHIPING, BLUE BALLED, BLUEBERRY BITCH FUCKWIT! HE IS NOTHING LIKE HIM!"

    @Lion_El_Jonson : "DON'T YOU COMPARE GLORIOUS GUILLIMAN TO THAT HERESY STARTING, FACE PAINTED, GOD WORSHIPPING BITCH FUCKWIT! HE IS NOTHING LIKE HIM"

    You know what I would really like to see in future content?

    Some art with the primarchs having helmets on. Not normal SM helmets either, some really badass unique looking ones.
    Jesus man,

    People all across the world have the opinion "Bomb syria! bomb syria!" Now Trump actually does it and he's an asshole?
    Yeah, because killing a craftworld is what all the cool primarchs do.

    We COULD take out a Dark Eldar Kabal or an Ork Waaaaagh and make the galaxy better for it, OR we could target the few relatively peaceful races in the universe for the lols.
  7. If i remember correctly it goes Emperor, Magnus, either Lorgar or Malcador, then it's Eldrad or some lame loser like that
    But now with the Aeldari well... i guess they''re so edgy OC they'd be better than everyone
  8. You never know with daemons, but according to the story Khorne violated the pact in testing Lorgar. Khorne daemons aren't exactly famous for their restraint.

    Secondly, Magnus and Lorgar were rather close, so which is the most powerful psyker is rather irrelevant. Together they are a walking Apocalypse.
    More to the point also is that everyone else already believed that it was Assad and regardless of what the evidence finally says they'll say it was his regime that purposefully deployed them, true or not. It was a test of character without a good answer. If he did nothing it would look like he allowed the Assad regime to use chemical weapons without consequence. So, a punitive strike against the specific airbase while warning their dangerous ally it was coming so as to not accidentally kill soldiers of the second most powerful nation on earth is a rather direct, yet comparatively restrained, act. I'm not sure I agree since I don't know if they actually did it, but if it is true then I do think it was an appropriate response to deter further such acts without overly risking a real conflict.
    Some brothers take the easy way, allowing themselves to be possessed for short term power. You see a big difference is your guys do so get consumed. Remember the Captain of Talos' crew? He got subverted by the daemon, his consciousness pushed into the back of the mind while the daemon took command, twisting his mind and body to it's desires. In the Word Bearers novel their possessed Champion at least looked totally normal between conflict. He was in total control of his faculties and could change back and forth from his daemon form to his normal Astartes form. Sorry, but even those who let them in are better at it and don't get made the daemon's bitch.

    As for the others who don't do that, I'm afraid you're just plainly wrong again here. Even Erebus's boys like Marduk can call upon daemons and command them, as much as you like to think that the Word Bearers bend the knee to any old daemon they see, it's actually the case that they dominate the daemons. I think you know this to be true but wish to deny it.

    And how can you be called Legionnaires when your Legion is a broken mess that your own Primarch despised?
  9. Lorgar was a better writer, he didn't have to use his brother's decapitated head to coerce others to buy his book and destroy the Legions, neutering his own sides forces in the process.
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  10. Lorgar was nothing but the match for the fire that doomed humanities dominance. Guilliman was one of the rare few in the Imperium that realised the need for good administration. he made sure his subjects living standards were absolutely top notch, to the point that Ultramar was the place to go for opportunity.

    He was however set in his ways, and often disregarded or derided tactics used by other primarchs, but here is the thing with Guilliman....he knows when he is wrong. After he and his men had to resort to unorthodox strategies used by legions like the Alphas, he gained an understanding of them, and admitted he was wrong, when the stratagems of those legions were added to the Codex.

    And in the end just like the Romans of old, when the Emperor perished, and the Imperium NEEDED someone exactly like Guilliman, he took the reigns and became a temporary dictator. He had all the power of the Imperium in his hands, yet he would cede that very power to the high lords.

    The breaking of the legions had to be done. The heresy proved that all it would take was lodges in a legion, to corrupt the rest of the body. Breaking it down was ultimately the safest option.

    Guilliman is far greater then that wreck Lorgar.

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