Discussion in 'Space Marines' started by acepost, Jul 22, 2018.
Unfortunately they never touch orks
Eldar players still play Eldar because they like all things Eldar, same for the Orks. Isn't it the other way around though? If you are trying to drive other players from a game because your own insecurities, wouldn't that make you the spiteful one?
when the exploits are gone, they will lose interest, and we will remain. The people responsible for the toxic behavior, nobody likes, not even other LSM players.
This isn't a "we hate Eldar" thing, this is people making it personal.
I don't believe strategy is the problem. Every match I've recently played against Eldar it has been painfully clear that Eldar players are just better on average. The issue is just individual situational awareness and competence.
Eldar players notice downed allies and revive them. Eldar players are capable melee combatants like 80% of the time and actually use all 3 melee actions variably. Eldar players generally support each other a lot better. Eldar players almost always recognize the importance of AV. Eldar players are usually situationally aware of their surroundings. Eldar players usually react quickly to threats.
If Loyalist Space Marines played with the same general awareness and teamwork all the time, this constant discussion about how to deal with Eldar would definitely be the other way around.
The 'counter' to Eldar is just your whole team being equally as good players as theirs are.
We can spend all month discussing what "advanced tactics" you can use as an individual on a game-to-game basis, but none of them will count for shit when you are constantly overwhelmed by superior numbers because your team mates can't get their shit together.
@Rathael true, and thats why eldar suffered countless nerfes, mb except FD, because its global rebalance
Yeah, practice makes perfect. Situational proactive stealth / flanking, agility builds are key, max fuel cells max fuel regen with power sword, no armour and MANUAL bolt pistol (because anything else is an insult to your own abilities, people will respect you for not using a smart pistol)
Im glad you said that @Rathael and not me. It's been true since day 1. Just gotta get a bit of cooperation and EC gets a lot better no matter who you play as.
Eldar have historically required it which is why it seems to be engrained into them.
I'd say it's generally the same for CSM as they were once viewed with as much hatred as Eldar and Orks were when it was just CSM v LSM since this community teaches hate, even if the IP is meant to do it ironically.
Why shoot them in the head? Their body is not that tough.
Why no shieldbros? I am totally okay with shields against the Eldar.
That, and there's occasionally funny git like me who gets to talking Orky on VOIP