Everything power fist/klaw feels so slow that knives are just a flat out better option if you don't catch them off guard. For 600LP, I don't think fists/klaws should have to make a concession on this front, it should just flat out instantly destroy knives in clangs no matter what. A gun to the face? Okay, should have finished sooner. A grenade to the feet? Okay, shouldn't have ran into it. A knife besting a power klaw/fist? Nope.
If I'm trading something off, then klaw should cost 0LP or knife 600LP. Pick one. Items can be flat out better than other items if they cost more LP, thats why mastercrafted/dead shiny items are a thing.
^ pretty much this. If the item costs 600 LP, it sure as hell better reflect. And, no, gimmicky one-hit kills from the back aren't proper reflections. That's just an abuse of a crummy melee system.
Roll. Backpedal. Shoot. That's what I have to do as someone with a mid-tier melee weapon when faced with a fist and it works because of how slow they are. It's ridiculous that knives beat them.
Melee should be at a heavy advantage in close range and not negated by a 0LP item. I don't see people bitching about the easy kills they get on melee focused characters from a range at all. If you let them get into close range, you should be fighting for your life through careful evasion (dodging also shouldn't have invincibility frames) or running away to a teammate.
The power fist/klaw equivalents do outright defeat knifes, one charge up attack clang and the knife is broken and the user is stunned. 2-3 quick attacks with the klaw and once again the knife is broken and the user is stunned. The knife user's only hope of defeating a powerfist/klaw is outmaneuvering and hitting the back with minuscule damage, which is really hard to do on a skilled opponent who calls your bluff. I never try to beat a powerfist/klaw in melee, your just gonna have a bad time. I try to delay my inevitable death until an ally can hopefully save me. Maybe there are glitches where people with knifes are somehow stopping powerfists/klaws? I know Ive personally never stood a chance 1v1 against these monstrous melee weapons.
There was a time in EA when power fists would practically beat any other weapon "no matter what" due to a bug and it was one of the worst builds the game has ever seen.
