I thought penalty TK was broken? Whenever I've TK'd I've always gotten 0xp penalty. Does it only happen if you do it multiple times? Also I am getting TK'd a fuck ton by plasma cannon idiots...
Yeah a Penalty is totally unfair. You should get rewarded for killing a teammate! /sarcasm Seriously, stop spamming brainless and you can avoid the most teamkills. Dont throw grenades near allies. Dont use PC against meele. Dont shoot in a meele fight. Penalty UP pls buff (Planetside got a nice one, kill enough and youll get a weaponlock)
As long as they fix it so forgiving gives you your xp back i would prefer it stays ... theres a whole lot of unnecessary team killing going on ....
Oh man, imagine the threads for if that was implemented: "So this asshole Dark Angel decided to sin me in the middle of a match RIGHT when I mowed down a mass of Chaos Marines! All because he got hit by a stray shot while I was suppressing the enemy, what the hell man? we're supposed to be a team!" Not trying to pick on anyone with that comment, just show that blame is always more toxic than forgiveness. Though, they should totally reimburse xp when you forgive someone. Also maybe do something like but instead of planetside's 30 minutes to a few hours of noguns and grandpa speed driving it instead restricts you from the main source of your teamkills for the rest of the match if you have too many unforgiven sins with that weapon type but haven't yet gotten enough for a kick, not making you useless, but making it so you have to switch tactics because clearly what you're doing isn't working out.
Personally I think that the TK penalty is fine where it is, but it does need some polishing and tweaks. There are certain situations where a team kill is either unavoidable or necessary, and the system currently does not differentiate between a deliberate team kill, an accidental team kill or a calculated team kill. While it may be close to impossible to get the system perfect, there are steps that can be taken in the right direction. Firstly, if I destroy an enemy vehicle and the explosion kills a friendly player, that kill should count as a suicide for that player, not a team kill for me. The amount of xp down the drain from people attempting to melee tanks, sometimes even with Chainswords, and being caught in the explosion when my Melta Bomb detonates is beyond counting. Secondly, I do not think that you should be punished to the same degree for killing a friendly player who is in the down but not out state as you would be for killing a fully alive player. If I am carrying an explosive weapon such as the Plasma Cannon, I should be punished for blowing up my buddy who's in a duel with an enemy, but I should not be punished for blowing him up while he's being executed after losing the duel. I realise this one would be harder to get right, as it could enable trolling by killing a player while they are being revived, but being punished for saving your own life and potentially the lives of others around you at the sacrifice of one already downed player is a bit off to me. Finally, if someone forgives your team kill you should be retroactively rewarded any of the xp you lost to the sin penalty related to that team kill.
There's only 2 things that shouldn't get the Xp penalty Killing a downed ally as this cannot always be helped due to stray fire and them being for the most part unable to move out of the way. Killing a ally VIA vehicle explosion. This one I honestly find major issue with as it shouldn't happen in the first place.. My suggestion is make klaw/fist users take 1/3 vehicle explosion damage as they usually end up killing themselves in the explosion anyway but if a team mate gets the last kill on it then they get punished.
