Have a friend who really wants to see guardsmen as a playable faction in EC. He's not much the forum goer but I thought I'd post it up her for him. His idea was that the imperial guard be added as its own faction, forgoing subfactions and rather than having different classes replacing said classes with regiments. This way every character selectable by the guard would be from an elite guard regiment whose soldiers had proven were capable of holding their own against the odds. Veterans would be just that, a veteran guardsmen of their respective regiment while elite would include characters such as commisars. I think some of the regiments he mentioned were the death korps of krieg, vostroyan firstborn, and the elysian something. I know they'd probably need a license for guardsmen, and even implementing them would be an iffy thing. But hey, my friend couldn't be arsed to make this post so I went ahead and made it for him.
Hey, look, imperial guard thread number 587545 and 1. And just like in previous half a billion threads, IG will never be implemented as playable race in EC under any circumstances, because they are not able to stand up to literally anything given equal numbers we have in EC. Elite guardsmen are still only a bugs for space marines or eldar.
Figured I'd get these replies. Bout the same thing I told my friend. Okay guard thread, back to the dungeons...
Uh that isn't exactly true my friend, the average Storm trooper equals out more or less with the average Dire Avenger, much like how a stock Guardsman is 1 to 1 with a Eldar Guardian. Notwithstanding, your argument suffers when we already have Ork Boyz in game standing up to Marines and Eldar. Plus there is nothing stopping Imperial guard regiments from fielding units like Ogryns as their melee power house, a IG unit that even Nobz respect for their strength, then we could have Catachan or Tanith for either close/long range stealth. There is a plethora of units to pull from in regards to combat and support for the IG. And I can already see you rolling your eyes at me, but fluff wise, many Imperial guardsman are terrifying bad asses, many of whom are worthy contenders for a bolter porn award. It should also be pointed out that not all Imperial guard regiments are Death Korp/Vahallan, meat grinder tactics is not the standard Imperial guardsman practice, despite what many of you think.
Stock guardsman got nothing on guardian... natural capabilities without any kind of training alone make them literally light years apart, now combine that with guardsmen months to years of training experience vs guardians literally hundreds of years practices. On a similar level, storm troopers got nothing on DAs for same reasons, more then that, storm troopers are not IG unit, but inquisition one. Orks we have in EC are not regular boys either, but skarboys-already experienced ones and we all know that orks can take a hit, unless its a headshot. Just stop. This horse is so dead and so beaten up that there is only 5 meter deep hole in the ground in the place it once was.
Let me start with this, just so long as you don't start throwing out snide remarks or talk to me or other forum goers in some condescending tone, we can attempt to have a decent discussion, I have no ill will towards you or the Eldar, I rather enjoy the lore and playing the faction. But damn dude, you're hardcore into thinkin the Eldar are perfection in warrior form... Training only ever gets you so far in life, considering the Guardians are a Eldar milita force, they on average would see less active combat than a stock Guardsman, and experience will trump training. Yes the Eldar have fast reflexes and the such, but despite some Eldar fluff porn, they aren't faster than the eye can see, not unless we're talking the hardcore Eldar who have lived 10,000 years, an Imperial Guardsman and Ork boy would and will be able to blast apart a Guardian and or Aspect warrior. There is of course Inquisitorial Storm troopers, but the Inquisition does not have a monopoly on them, two easy examples of such a units can be seen in the Death Korp Grenadiers, the Cadian Kasrkin. Units such as them would and will bloody the fuck out of a Dire Avenger squad if not out right kill all of them. And I've never seen any indication of the game calling them Skar boyz, I'll go back into the game, but all I ever see them referred to us Boyz and Nobz. And I'm sorry I wasn't around for these debates on the validity of an Imperial guard faction, but I do feel there is a good case for having them introduced at some point.
Guard, Necrons and Dark Eldar or any new faction would kill this game honestly due to the 50% LSM to like 13% and 12% Eldar and Orks and it would only hurt the numbers more especially if Guard or Sisters can't fight against LSM, further more Eldar are missing a massive majority of their gear and only have 1 weapon on 4/7 classes and Orks need tuning and changes as well soo I would like to avoid this happening However I would like some Guardmen elites as an elite choice, the devs wanted to use "slates" as an elite class currency so guardmen elites would be ideal. How would this work, well if 3 slates is a Terminator life then 1 slate could be 3 storm trooper lives, Storm Troops would deep strike anywhere although with a drop marker on map for their landing site, they could take hotshots , melta, plasma etc. and cap which would make for an interesting last minute capper. I want the same thing with Sisters and Grey Knights, LSM shouldn't exist as a single faction in this game but instead should be accurately named the Imperium since they can pull fourth from it various organisations, I would like the same done for demons for Chaos and Harlequins for Eldar.
As much as I love the Guard, adding any more Imperial factions wouldn't make much sense at all with the way this game works. Necrons are the only other race I could see being implemented at some point in the future because they could fit into the game's play style, The only problem I see is their slowness preventing them from effectively moving from point to point in the very limited timeframe that matches happen in.
