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Re-doing my eldar character: I have a question

Discussion in 'Eldar' started by NebirosZael, Jan 22, 2017.

  1. NebirosZael NebirosZael Subordinate

    Soooo... I tried Eldar for a bit, after having maxed Space Marines and having tried Chaos and Orks.
    For my first Eldar character I just picked a random Craftworld (Saim-Hann if I remember well), but since the only thing that change between craftworlds in the game is (probably at the moment) only the Warlock armor color, and since Warlock (as all the other support classes) is what I want to play most, I didn't like Saim-Hann so I deleted the character (didn't have that much progress and didn't buy anything with RTC) and I want to choose well this time. I'm stuck on what should I pick between Biel-Tan, Iyanden and Ulthwé.
    I like all of them and I like their lore characters: Macha for Biel-Tan, Prince Yriel for Iyanden and Eldrad (that prick) for Ulthwé, not to mention Taldeer (which according to the games is from Ulthwé and according to the novels is from Biel-Tan), so I don't know. Anyone is good for me, so I thought I'll ask: which of the three is better lore-wise?
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  2. Asyran Eldritch Arkhona Vanguard

    Ulthwe: Craftworld of Psykers and Storm Guardians. They are the home of Eldrad Ulthran. They also are the arch-enemies of Chaos, having close proximity to the Eye of Terror.

    Iyanden: Craftworld of ghosts. Most of their Craftworld was killed off by Hive Fleet Kraken. They are a shell of their former selves.

    Biel-tan: Trying to reclaim their empire. Specialises in Aspect Warriors. Very militarist, and want to rebuild the Eldar empire. They also despise Orks.
  3. Jaywalker Jaywalker Steam Early Access

    Biel-tan is for playing Banshees not Warlocks, especially once they add the green sashes, which means your banshees will essentially run the craftworld's colors by default.

    If you want to play support, your best options is Ulthwe, which has the best Warlocks, and psykers in general.

    Iyanden is the go to pick if you want to specialize in Wraithguard and Wraithguard derivatives, also Spiritseers(Eldar "necromancers") which will likely be the vehicle support class.


    Or you could say fuck-it to fluff and pick your favorite color.
  4. Razmirth Razmirth Subordinate

    There nothing I can say that hasn't been said already. I guess my personal pick is ulthwe out of these options.
    Biel-tan are basically eldar version of space marines, and often act against the council and warning of other craft worlds because of their hatred of other races. This often can cause a small problem to become bigger. IE- go kill some orks on a planet, more orks show up to fight, waaaggh ensues and they promptly screw off leaving someone else (other eldar who warned them in the first place) to deal with it. Don't like their approach.

    Iyanden are dying off. Glory days are long gone and they're screwed. Next Please.

    Ulthwe is probably the eldar faction who has most interferred for better or worse with other races. Their primary goal is killing Chaos first, and protecting eldar lives. This leads them to make alliances with other races more readily, or at least warning them of impending danger. example- they tried to warn the emperor of Horus falling to chaos, so eldrad gets ahold of fulgrim to tell him and that doesn't work out so well, with fulgrim virus bombing maiden worlds. Fact is they at least attempt to do the right thing, even though at times it's usually what's right for self preservation.

    Personally my favourite is Altanstar, Maugen Ra's (dark reapers Phoenix lord) craftworld. Stuck in the warp for thousands of years, fought and killed their way out and still are uncorrupted. If eldar had any group of them that would be called bad ass, it would be these guys. Dark eldar don't count, they are much to awesome of a faction to be on the same level as craftworld eldar. If only they were in the game...
  5. NebirosZael NebirosZael Subordinate

    I know right? I'm just waiting for the day they'll be implemented (or at least, I hope). That's also the kinda thing that ruined Dawn of War 2 for me, no Dark Eldars, no Sisters, no Tau (well, that's better), no Necron.
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  6. Smorcest Elector Eternal Battles Moderator

    Macha or go home
  7. Razmirth Razmirth Subordinate

    To be honest with you, I don't understand why dark eldar don't make an appearance more. It's always LSM vs CSM in all games....they virtually operate the same except one group has spikes and is mutated.

    Eldar are always in the games, why not have dark eldar? Orks are popular and a great faction, but dark eldar are what CSM is to LSM. Not to mention people seem to prefer dark eldar over craftworld eldar anyway. Eldar come across to many as emo space elves. Dark eldar come across more twisted and evil than Chaos at times, which makes sense, seeing how they created one of the chaos gods.

    Dark eldar, in my opinion, are a massive untapped resource in the 40K PC games.
  8. Judasilfarion Silfarion Drill Abbott

    Ehhh that's subjective. Thing is, Deldar don't have the same overbearing 10 millennia old rivalry with their craftworld cousins that the LSM and CSM have. After all, Deldar and Eldar are battle brothers on the TT.

    There's also the fact that Deldar aren't really impactful to the setting. Their goals are to capture slaves, and that's about it. They have little interest outside of Commorragh otherwise. Sure they've done a few things that matter in the overall backstory (Jaghatai Khan) but if they got Squatted one day I don't think it would change much
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  9. Razmirth Razmirth Subordinate

    Agreed that planetary conquest and draw out conflict doesn't fit them at all. But I think back to DOW soul storm and it worked out great to have them in the game. I think having them in eternal crusade would be difficult to say the least, since they are supposed to be even faster and more agile than craftworld eldar. With the current hate eldar get from lag/latency issues, imagine the tears of pure salt and rage.

    But I'd like to see them implicated in DOW 3 at least. Even as a DLC or expansion.
  10. Nether Nether Master

    Based on what you have said and that you like the Warlock most which is what you want to play then I would suggest two of your options, which are my favorite two Craftworlds hands down.

    Ulthwe, they are considered the strongest Psyckers of the Eldar, and take using smart strategy to the next level. With that said, they realize they are making the hard choices of war that causes them the least amount of damage.
    These guys have always been my favorite for so many reasons.

    Then the very close second spot is Iyanden.
    -Many I find don't give these guys the kudo's they deserve, here included and they are still badasses.
    These guys are the equivalent of Eldar Necromancers, and they aren't taking no shit from anyone, so much so that they are coming back from the grave to keep fighting for their Craftworld and sticking it to their enemies.
    As Psyckers they specialize in spirit (naturally for Necromancers) and the living's numbers might be low but they have a crap ton of wraith soldiers, which in general are far more dangerous, and even if defeated they can still return to fight again.
    Last point with these guys, is this is the only Craftworld I know of that has the "respect" of the Dark Eldar, so much so that they even showed up to save them from going out in a blaze of glory. The only Craftworld that can compare to them in badassery is Altansar as previous mentioned, they fought their way out of the warp.

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