Three things. 1. It's SHOOTA. SHOOTA. NO H. DROP IT. 2. Your 5 minute video of flanking chaos and attacking them with the Ded Shiney Shoota to get kills does not in any way show balance for Orks. What if I want to play another class other than Loota or Shoota? You think it's normal that only 2 classes are viable? 3. Our toughness increase does not mean extra survivability when compared to Eldar with a smaller hitbox and much faster movement speed. Our massive hitboxes don't help.
When Eldar were at their worst I could have made a similar highlight reel only showing the times I got a jump on someone who was focused on a teammate/fought someone who was already weak/fought someone who was terrible/got lucky with headshoots/got lucky with bullet RNG putting everything on target. Clearly this means Eldar should be rolled back to their release state. They were perfectly fine back then! Of course, I didn't do that because I'm not enough of a fuck-wit to think that means anything.
Oh I get that feeling... when I see a bunch of sluggas get in my way when I unload my shoota/deffgun just to shoot 5 bullets of their pistol... or when I roll every couple of minutes to dodge a friendly grenade.... or when I see them staring at a point without capturing it...;Playing Ork is suffering mainly because it seems there are a lot of new players, it feels the same then when I used to play space marines a few months ago. OR they could just fix the map and not make you spawn out there in the open. Just saying. 90% of the heavy bolter "problems" are just caused by the maps's layouts. It's just the regular shoota with no mods. Deffguns have more recoil when braced but less when shot on foot (at least that's how I feel). Although to make up for it the Orks have the Plasma Deffgun which really is just a heavy bolter on steroids (140 penetration as opposed to 80 means 25% more damage on people with 140 toughness) and is very precise when shot in bursts. You seem to enough of a "fuck-wit" to not have actually checked the whole video though. Otherwise you would have seen that there are plenty of frontal kill against full health ennemies. Some of them are even fresh from the spawn AND healed by sorcers. Or alternatively you can also just do simple math with the weapon stats in the game if you're THAT irritated by a video. Also, luck with headshots and bullet rng? Are you for real?
Rubbish. New players will almost exclusively go for SM. plus new players joined last patch and Orks could still compete. Plus lots of extremely experienced players are finding Orks difficult. Do you main Orks?
I main all factions. I believe that if you don't play every single aspect of a game and experience all sides intensively then talking about balance is pretty much meaningless. Plus you miss like 2/3 of the content if you don't, that's just silly...
Totally agree. I play other races but I play Orks as my main. I think all players will gravitate towards a particular race over all others. Which is your most played race? Do you collect any models?
I play SM, Ork and Eldar the same amount. The one faction I haven't touched in a month is chaos because of those freaking wipes I just don't have the time to try everything. I don't collect models but me liking a specific faction in the lore has little to do with me liking a faction in the game to be honest. I care about gameplay much more than looks or lore.
I think we have to make some points clear here. Yes Orks are UP at the moment. This does not mean they are totally bad. But it's undeniable some problems have to be fixed: - Our extra toughness doesn't give us extra survivability. - Wagh! Triggers too rarely and it's bugged: it doesn't do what's in the description as we still get downed and respawn is not instantaneous. - it seems orks cannot perform the evasive attack (evading roll + melee attack). - The power klaw has no fast attack and this really sounds like a bug. Honestly if they fix this I believe we're more or less ok on the ork side. Then it's mainly about the other factions. Heavy Bolter, and Eldar small hitbox on top.
http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/q-a-with-nathan-launch-edition.57077/ There is a stream link in this post where Nathan himself talks about how orks melee and such is broken and needs to be fixed.. so anyone at this point claiming orks are fine. is just blatantly blind/ignorant or wish the worst for orks.. when the DEVELOPERS and the like SAY something is broken. it more then likely is. And no amount of denial will fix it. c: