No. There was a change made to melee for the launch build (along with a possible bug) that explains most all of this thread. 1) strong attack vs fast attack counter: the window to successfully counter a strong with a fast was reduced. If you try to clang after the "ting" sound effect you fail to counter the strong (if you succeed, then you stagger your opponent) and create a clang. 2) strong attack vs fast attack clang: this "might" be a bug, but failing to counter a strong attack with a fast attack is causing excessive durability damage to the fast attacker's weapon on the clang resulting from the failed counter attempt. This is causing low tier weapons like knives (and swords without impact mods) to break very quickly. 3) strong attack countering defensive bash: always be mindful of the fact that trying to d-bash a strong attack will result in the basher stunning THEMSELVES. Dont help your aggressor. A comment on some of the rage "soldryn the *" causes in my matches: I have been working very hard to use the stun mechanic attached to defensive bash proactively in battle. I have learned to kill shieldbros and people with flaming poopsticks by forcibly stun locking them to get around their unusual wargear. Expect good melee players to use every tool in the kit to get kills.
If someone spam heavy attacks, just use light attacks Also orks melee is very bugged, but as Eldar, heavy attacks on tiers 3 weapons are too fasts that sure. But in another hand you can do something againts a spammer, melee DoTs are worst opponents !
The funny thing about all this is that these complaints are coinciding with Ork momentum being fixed. They altered our momentum ranges to match those of marines in the last hotfix, because most of us were getting wrecked in melee. LSM/CSM are now on the receiving end of the same bullshit us Orks have been facing since patch 23 (almost a week before launch). Our light attacks have been getting wrecked by marines heavy-attacking from a distance for a long time now. To counter this our shoota boyz learned to dodge and our few remaining people that used melee classes learned to forget that light attacks even exist. Seriously: Play a shooter boy and watch what happens when a shieldbro/JPA gets on top of you. It's the exact same thing.
Nerf marine power fist and shields the first one shot me, the second doesn't let me to oneshot them. How if i put the thing in this way? Uh, poor marines they can't purge us easily ç_ç i suffer with all my heart with you.... Still i beaten your elites 1 vs 1 with a 830 points slugga loadout, oh but i am not good in melee iz because i need to be nerfed for sure... poor poor marines ç___ç.
It's clear from the video, that you triggered attack too late to counter his charge. I use heavy attacks with my slugga pretty often, and most of sm/csm folks i butchered were trying to use defensive bash which is completely useless against heavy attack with electfiried choppa or klub. However, there are some people who really know how to counter such 'taktiks', most of the times it were sms/csm with chain swords spamming evade and fast attacks properly. In addition, LSM wolf priests with fiery crozius is a zoggin bane for all assault classes. Noone wants to square up with them in melee.
For me the problem is the animation, i find it much harder to differentiate between fast and heavy attacks, particulary when choppas have a shield. Lsm and choas have much more distinct differance between heavy and fast attacks .
If you want to nerf the only useful ork meele weapon than give us something equal to the force weapons. Its ridiculous that a sorc can break every attack/dbash of my slugga or a wolf priest killing 5 orks just with 1 hit and the fire. The power klaw is crap because you miss a enemy standing directly infront of you.
This is all melee I have played all the factions and this seems to be an issue with all factions vs all other factions.
