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No sane military force would ever use Boltguns the way they're portrayed in this game.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by TCOM-Charlie, Sep 29, 2016.

  1. Thresh Phelan_Stonewolf Well-Known Member

    I feel like the biggest issue is that the inaccuracy at long range is a bit much, but you can't reign in it too much or you risk it being basically a rapid fire stalker pattern without any actual spread.
  2. Neoiceman81 Neoiceman81 Steam Early Access

    The accuracy is a bit bad, and i dont know why an Muzzle should be affect the accuracy in an bad way it is the opposite in the real world o_O

    Hmm what i miss the most are the different types of ammunition.


    • Standard Bolts comprise the following components: Outer casing, propellant base, main charge, mass reactive detonator cap, depleted deuterium core, diamantine tip. The standard bolter shell is standardized at .75 caliber, whereas heavy bolter rounds are larger, at 1.00 Cal. A replica .75 cal bolt shell can be bought from the Black Library (Games-Workshops main fiction and non-miniature based outlet).
    • Hellfire Rounds have devastating results on organic matter, as the rounds are developed to combat Tyranids. The core and tip are replaced with a vial of mutagenic acid with thousands of needles that fire into target upon the shattering of the vial, pumping the acid into the target. Heavy Bolters can also equip a large calibre version known as a Hellfire Shell which are carried by Scouts
    • Stalker Silenced Shells are rounds with low sound signatures, meant for covert fighting and used in conjunction with an M40 targeting system and an extended barrel and stock on a bolter to produce a sniping weapon system. A solidified mercury slug replaces the mass-reactive warhead for lethality at sub-sonic projectile speed. A gas cartridge also replaces both the propellant base and main charge for silent firing.
    • Inferno Bolts are designed to immolate their targets and destroy them with superheated chemical fire. The deuterium core is replaced with an oxy-phosphorus gel, known as Promethium. It should be noted that the Chaos Space MarineThousand Sons have their own similarly-named but unrelated type of inferno bolts, which are actually psychically-bound slugs that release arcane energies; these slugs explode with sorcerous energies upon impact.
    • Dragonfire Rounds are similar to Inferno Bolts, but contain superheated gas instead of Promethium. They are effective against enemies hidden behind cover as the superheated pocket of gas expands and immolate the foe even as they hide.
    • Odysseus Bolts are bolts which are psychically impregnated. Fired into large objects, the distinctive signature of the bolt can then be tracked through the Warp by an Astropath.
    • Metal Storm Frag Shells are best against multiple lightly-armoured targets. They detonate before impact and spray shrapnel, shredding their victims. A proximity detonator replaces the mass-reactive cap, and the diamantine tip and deuterium core are replaced with an increased charge and fragmentation casing. They are similar to flak rounds and are used against clusters of enemies.
    • Kraken Pattern Penetrator Rounds are powerful armour-piercing rounds. The deuterium core is replaced by a solid adamantine core and uses a heavier main charge. Upon impact, the outer casing peels away and the high velocity adamantium needle accelerates into the victim, where the larger detonator propels shards of super hardened metal further into the wound. These are effective against heavily-armoured infantry.
    • Vengeance Rounds utilise unstable flux-core technology for lethal penetrative power, and are highly effective at anything up to and including Power Armour. The trade off is that the rounds have a shorter range than standard bolts and the flux-core's unstable nature makes it hazardous to the firer, not unlike a Plasma weapon.
    • Psycannon Bolts are used by the Inquisition, primarily the Ordo Malleus and Grey Knights. They are very similar in nature to the rounds fired by their namesake, the Psycannon, and are similarly used against psychic and daemonic targets. Of all the rounds these are the most expensive, as each and every bolt is inscribed with runes on a microscopic level. Other sources say that they contain an anti-psychic substance that still others claim is a byproduct of the Emperor's Golden Throne. The psychic nature of these rounds are not only effective at destroying daemonic targets but also highly efficient at piercing the powerful barriers created by forcefield generators (such as the Tau Shield Generator and the Imperium's own Iron Halo and Storm Shield).
  3. VoxC VoxC Menial

    I use burst fire; it's much more accurate. Not a little more. A metric ton more accurate.

    Go forth and spread the good word of burst fire, brother.
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  4. Pouncey Pouncey Subordinate

    Isn't that normal recoil while firing a weapon that's not a laser? Because that happens literally every time I fire a gun of any sort.

    Wait, is it happening with a laser? Laser weapons shouldn't have recoil, they should have a heat bar.
  5. I use a custom bolter that has 60 round drum mag, less horizontal recoil (since characters are taller than they are wider this helps make sure more bullets land), and has less spread per bullet fired, and iron sights.. I do not have the problems the OP has.
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  6. Gladius GladiusCZ Arkhona Vanguard

    So instead we have melee rules and fuck all who want to shoot. Brilliant design.
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  7. Pouncey Pouncey Subordinate

    Welcome to 40k.

    Leave your sense of sanity at the coat check.
  8. Sigvald Darthy Curator

    It's completely off the actual topic despite the title but: Most militarizes use weapons that are far more inaccurate unless they are specifically tuned for precision, in real life you're often firing at distant very blurry targets with rapid fire weapons that you hope will smack them in the back of the head, it's why wars have such absurd ammo consumption for relatively few kills.

    By comparison boltguns are practically pin point.
  9. ANGRY MARINE ANGRY-MARINE Well-Known Member

    My pistol is better at long range than my Boltgun.
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  10. Listy Listy Member

    To be fair there's accounts of that happening in the real world. Hell its been doctrine in the real world!

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