How would that number be relevant? If you would at least ask for kill/deploy rate I could try to take you serious. PS: That NCS/JPA combo you talk about can kill with two slams alone. How is that not op?
O because total bolter kills Vs total NCS kills is really a great statistic to base this argument on. Seriously dude wind your neck in.
Perhaps the blatant imbalances that obviously work heavily in favor of Tacs +Bolter compared to JPA directly influences the deploy rate? Of course it directly influences the deploy rate. Are you guys afraid of the cold hard facts? It appears you are. I know BHVR doesn't want to show them because their blatant bias would be undeniable for all to see. Look no further than LP prices for all Tac gear. MC weapons, mods, and wargear compared to ALL OTHER CLASSES. The bias is crystal clear.
If you want it done correctly, it'd be only appropriate to have Laeran swords for Mark of Slaanesh users, adding the same vulnerability effect as lash does, but also prolonging respawn-times on executed foes. Force/hecker-staffs for tzeentch, granting additional spells, as well as screamer-rounds for bolters that heavily suppress targets and add psyker-spell vulnerability. Bleed-ailment weapons for Mark of Khorne users, where they are long-time lingering effects that can only be removed via direct application of healing (not heal-nades). All that on top of varied noxious & bile weaponry for Mark of Nurgle. The marks should get items that drastically alter the playstyle of the user between the different marks (in terms of how others have to fight them). If there was even a remote chance of anything like aforementioned being added, I'd have no problem going on for ages listing possible ones, but alas tis in vain
Nurgle weapon bound to Nurgle, oh the horror, least it's not classed locked. Sorry I forgot Khorne was a huge fan of disease cursed chainswords that was literally a Nurgle weapon through and through. Famine for the skull throne
Feel free to tell us all why it's not a really great statistic? What statistic would be a great stat to base limiting NCS to just Nurgle? And you and others have still yet to address: 1. Lets see the numbers @jbregg . Bolter Total kills: NCS Total Kills: All other melee weapons(excluding NCS) combined total kills compared to Bolter: Limited Access to NCS warranted? Or are all other melee weapons in game for the most part total crap with the NCS being one of the only descent melee weapons in game. Hint: this is the correct answer. The numbers don't lie, please don't lie about the numbers. 2. Replacement SWORDS for Tzeentch, Slaanesh and Khorne melee builds? - Do NOT insult us by bringing up the slow as heck Manslayer Axe. Axes and mauls are too slow to compete in the current "rollin-rollin-rollin" + Bolter and sword meta. By equipping an axe or maul in EC players are knowingly gimping themselves because these are just too slow to play at a competitive level. -Manslayer: We can die winding up a single "fast attack" with bolter fire coming from an opponent that's standing 3 inches away because that single "fast attack" from the slow as hell axe takes fucking forever to wind up and deliver = utterly and completely BROKEN. 3. Totally removing Life Leech + DOT(damage over time) synergy from game is warranted? Because? Compared this synergy to overall number of kills tallied by Tac + Bolter? 4. Mark of Nurgle: -Plague Knife -Blight Grenade -Necrotic Chain Sword -Best overall Mark Where's our Knife, Grenade and Sword for: -Khorn? -Slaanesh? -Tzeentch? Why ever bother rolling anything but Nurgle now?
Enough speculation and trolling, address the actual issues and provide actual data. 1. Lets see the numbers @jbregg . Bolter Total kills: NCS Total Kills: All other melee weapons(excluding NCS) combined total kills compared to Bolter: Limited Access to NCS warranted? Or are all other melee weapons in game for the most part total crap with the NCS being one of the only descent melee weapons in game. Hint: this is the correct answer. The numbers don't lie, please don't lie about the numbers. 2. Replacement SWORDS for Tzeentch, Slaanesh and Khorne melee builds? - Do NOT insult us by bringing up the slow as heck Manslayer Axe. Axes and mauls are too slow to compete in the current "rollin-rollin-rollin" + Bolter and sword meta. By equipping an axe or maul in EC players are knowingly gimping themselves because these are just too slow to play at a competitive level. -Manslayer: We can die winding up a single "fast attack" with bolter fire coming from an opponent that's standing 3 inches away because that single "fast attack" from the slow as hell axe takes fucking forever to wind up and deliver = utterly and completely BROKEN. 3. Totally removing Life Leech + DOT(damage over time) synergy from game is warranted? Because? Compared this synergy to overall number of kills tallied by Tac + Bolter? 4. Mark of Nurgle: -Plague Knife -Blight Grenade -Necrotic Chain Sword -Best overall Mark Where's our Knife, Grenade and Sword for: -Khorn? -Slaanesh? -Tzeentch? Why ever bother rolling anything but Nurgle now? 5. All factions have a "named" sword available as a "end game" item for their melee archetypes. What swords will BHVR be implementing to fill this missing weapon slot for all Mark of Slaanesh, Tzeentch and Khorne melee builds? SWORDS, not axes.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I duuno, I'm still waiting for Eldar drum mags man, don't blame me you don't have a melee weapon for every colour of the rainbow right now when some classes don't have global mods or weapon types and never will I would kill for a Thousand Son kopesh for my sorcerer tbh
Then perhaps BHVR doesn't start TAKING AWAY items prior to developing replacement items. Somehow we've been just fine all this time and the Bolter has been destroying Worlds with the NCS being an occasional annoyance to those 50 to 60+ Bolter kills every other match for the last 2 years. But holy fuck, lets limit that NCS because melee is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fucking OP. I'm over this bullshit and these game destroying moves by Behavior. YOU'RE KILLING OUR GAME! STOP IT PLEASE.
