This is my convo with Michael Chan about The Chosen. http://forum.eternalcrusade.com/threads/chosen-chaos-marines-in-eternal-crusade.6642/page-4
Ive read that. Still as you can see by the linked above the Chosen of Abaddon are not your regular lame ass Chosen. They are veterans of countless wars and have ridiculous amounts of power and armies of their own under their leadership. They also count at only 4 at any given time. The Chosen mentioned as a progression class cannot compare to the actual Chosen of Abaddon. If they were ever implemented (and they wont, the same reason someone like Arhiman or Necrosius wont) they would be a hero*20.
These are not my 'lame ass chosen' Djemo, there is only one type of The Chosen - we're talking about the same thing. I've just checked it in two chaos codexes: The Chosen are the elite of a Chaos Space Marine Army. Drawn from the most experienced and capable warriors of the traitor legions, they have literary thousands of years of experience. these men have ruled planets, led armies and destroyed civilisations: they are the chosen of the chaos gods and the bane of all that lives. This is a quote from the 4th ed, do you want me to quote the stats too?
Dude... the fact that they are called Chosen doesent equate them to the actual Chosen as a class. They were chosen by Abaddon, hence the name, Chosen of Abaddon. So yeah, they are to the Chosen that Chosen are to regular marines. If you would have to equate them to an existing unit within the roster they would fit the Chaos Lords (hence their titles Lord Ravager, Lord Corruptor etc). But they are probably even stronger considering they are basically the councilors of Abaddon himself.
Not according to the TT codexes. In there you have ONLY The Chosen (+ a little story about The chosen of the Abaddon, so I guess it didn't happen to be there by accident). I see it this way, and anybody that has an extensive WH40k knowledge pls correct me if I'm wrong: The Chosen is a larger group of uber ass kicking CSm with thousands of years of experience. Out of this group 4 generals are selected by Abaddon himself, which doesn't change the fact that the rest of them aren't by no means 'lame ass' as you called them, quotation from the source again; This is far from being lame ass. What's more in 4th ed codex The chosen were not much weaker than the actual chaos lords. They had only one wound but also a huge variety of gear to use including TDAs, jump packs, heavy weapons, basically you could craft them any way you wanted. In later editions they got a bit nerfed though.
Dont know how further i can dissect this... In my eyes CoA are not the equivalent of a regular Chosen, simple as that its my opinion on the matter. Perhaps "lame ass" was an overstatement, but surely quite below power level wise. The same way you wouldnt try to equate a Sorcerer as an archetype with Ahriman, or a Librarian archetype to the Emperor himself who was basically a ridiculously powerful psyker. There are layers in the power game. Same way Ahriman would outright murder a regular Sorcerer, i believe the same would go down with CoA vs some regular Chosen. Hell Arhiman killed Necrosius once, who was basically also a powerful psyker in his own right (but was revived by Nurgle), so the power layers go on and on. Bottom line, the Chosen of Abaddon cannot be a progression of a regular character cause: 1)There is 4 of them and they have their names. 2)They are by lore standards too powerful to be in the game.
This all gets pretty complicated . In TT you could field Abaddon himself or Ahriman as a hero, The Chosen as well (although they weren't called The Chosen of Abaddon, just The Chosen, but if these are not Abaddon's Chosen so whose are they, see what I mean ? ), so...? I think it's all a big semantic misunderstanding on the part of GW codexes. Anyway, the most important thing is The Chosen in EC are confirmed. They do not need to be hero status, it's enough for me if they had a much wider load out choice just like in TT.
Im not a TT player, so for curiosities sake what stats did Abaddon and Arhiman have exactly? A Chaos Lord and a Sorcerer Lord?
Shortly speaking: huge differences between Abaddon and a regular lord and like wise in case of Ahriman and a normal Sorcerrer. I could quote the codex but I know its kinda against the law so I will only tell you that Abaddon in TT was A F******* BEAST. He could wipe out a squad of regular SM in one round of cc (if you had decent dice throws) without them even being able to respond. Ahriman was a badass too and had more powers to use than regular sorcs.
