I blame the EA to be honest for that ... the old founders who survived Miguel and the coming of Nathan (crusher of dreams) already had our share of disillusionment and were taking everything we were told with large grains of salt until we saw how things played out, for instance when I joined back in 2013 I was sceptical and doubtfull, EC was promising to be a lot, a huge game changer ... then after a couple of months of having the devs explain how it would work and how it was going to work I started to believe and I joined the choir, accepting that some things would have to be the way they were going to be to allow for truely massive battles ... like simple mechanics, less detailed graphics and maps etc etc ... and the mantra was "K.I.S.S" (keep it simple stupid) then pikkotech self immolated and it all went out the window ... everything was up for grabs again as we had our horizons reefed back in, but in the mean time the game went out into Early Access and a whole raft of new people from steam climbed onboard and myself and many others were forced to recite the mantra of "its only alpha, its a WiP" to answer the hundreds of questions that raised their heads again ... and eventually they too started to join the choir singing the "alpha, WiP", the "road to the open world" was no different .... the old founders read it and saw what might be and what might not be, but plenty of others read it and believed every word as law, we all sat back and watched with diminishing hope as feature after feature got slowly cut from launch and fell into the post launch bucket, but like all bucket systems it can only hold so much before you start to wonder why the post launch bucket was growing so large
the other part of the problem is the way this news is getting revealed... bE always made a big deal about transperancy ... "we work for you", and it was like that up until nathan arrived and we had radio silence for months before the info started to flow again, but this time more censored ... more restrained, less dev theorising and more "we dont know yet, we cant say yet", but it seems that every now and then the dam breaks and a flood of "delayed until post launch/thats the way we mean it to be" spills out and usually through a third party source .. by which I mean not on the forums or on "our" twitchs, but by interviews, and every time the same thing happens ... people felt lied to because they wernt told up front, because they had to find out via other people posting links to the "new info" on the forum, EDIT we get told one thing here on the forums ... and some people misread it, or interpret it and get the wrong idea, it works its way through the forum like chinese whispers where only the way they see it or like it being emphasised each time ... until enough people have the wrong idea, meanwhile we get no new info, no dev deconfirmation or clarification on the forum so it all seems kosher, then from out of the blue new info appears from outside and we are all like "WTF thats not what we were told it was going to be like"
launch: same lobbyshooter-stuff as right now, plus + Orks + a map to connect the lobbyshooter-matches into some statistic originally planned and now post-launch: - weapon-mods - Elites and Heroes - Bikes - a campaign with strategic decisions and Warlords - a progressing background-story written by Graham McNeill that would would essentially turn the war on Arkhona into an epic WH40k-tale bonus-stuff that is planned in the long-term for post-launch: - Terminators - Walkers (they have no idea for a game-mechanic yet) - Nathan said in a Twitch that Adeptus Mechanicus will be the next race to be added crazy stuff for post-launch: - Nathan wants NPC-titans
My guess is that it is a promise broken not on technological problems but rather choice. Not being able to reach 50 vs 50 battles can possibly be blamed on the technology and possibly something which can be optimized in the future as we go through testing. Camera angles and buggy melee can be fixed. These items really do not effect the vision of the game--they are all items which can be "fixed". The decision to not implement a campaign system and give people control of the game which they are playing is quite large. It effects the entire purpose of playing. You cannot play a soccer game without goals--without goals you are not playing a game but just kicking around a ball. You cannot play a war game without the possibility of winning the war--completing the objective. Many people signed up for the war game not just a lobby shooter. The writing was on the wall. The flip/flopping of buffs and nerfs per patch. Not having one complete faction. Not seeing PVE until 2 weeks ago. Lack of maps. People were probably just hoping that the devs were hiding a bunch of stuff. Then the news comes out that no, they weren't hiding anything, the entire campaign element is being stripped out. I can understand why people are upset. Frankly, I don't care. I'll play the lobby shooter but I just want it to be fun again. I stopped playing during path 18 when it lost its fun for me. I tried again in patch 19 but that was even less fun. I'm just hoping that patch 20 will bring the fun back.
I just wonder how next livestream will look. People are really dissapointed about all this content cutted. I know we have some answers from devs but I think it is not enough. I would be happy to hear more answers for questions that stays unanswered.
Honestly I don`t think it will work anymore. I don`t think watching how new skins for weapons will look like will be enough. I suppose even most positive players would be intrested in beard talking.
Really "cousin" the thirst has clouded your sences.You speak as if you dont know your fellow forumites!
i am so hyped for the live stream if they talk about the issues at hand but they might pretend nothing happend
