OT: Talk of Khornate Havocs always gets me excited. That damned God is screaming out for nuance. I know as a Slaaneshi I'm more likely to judge Khorne This is the piece Paul Dainton did of Ukris for ADB's Talon Of Horus if any Khornates missed it -- Quoting ADB: "There are four pieces of internal artwork - Paul Dainton’s interpretations of the main characters – all of which I actually have framed for my games room because I loved them so much. True story." ...
Honestly, I think it's for the best, if only because it would remove a lot of redundancy and would actually provide a reason to become the Hero class at that. That been said, I sorta think that psykers should in general be a hero class for all races other than Eldar (who should have their access to Warlocks as a default). I'm not per se disappointed that they are a basic class for us, but I don't really think of psykers coming out of the woodwork even for Chaos. Aspiring Sorceror's should still be badasses to the ninth degree. Despite being involved in the hobby since 2nd edition, Aspiring Sorceror's are very much 'just' squad commanders for Thousand Sons units (to me), but obviously everybody (even the other Gods!) need to start out somewhere... unless you're Khorne, cos then you should be just a melee badass even if you might have the Gift otherwise.
Well there was a time when almost every single person in a Thousand Sons' or (Tzeentchian) army aside for the Rubricae( and possessed if you used them) had access to psychic powers in the 3rd edition codex. Tzeentchian sorcerers even herded around thrall wizards to sacrifice them for more power when it was needed. As for the number of sorcerers, there was a time when sorcery was a byproduct of serving the Dark gods. Chaos Lieutenants,Lords and even Aspiring Champions could embrace sorcery if they wanted too. Later on Lords and Lieutenants were separated from one another into separate entries in the 4-5th edition of the codex, champions loss the ability to pursue sorcery among other things and as well as everything else that was discarded with the coming of that codex. I wouldn't really say sorcerers are all that uncommon they're just Aspiring Champions or at least were in regards to the older fluff.
I effin love Dainton's work his Word Bearers piece and his Nightbringer piece on Pavonis are some of my alltime favorite pieces of warhammer 40000 art.
yes is still the same: thousand son or are rubric or sorcerer: no idea how after 10k years someone can still be an aspring sorcerer
Yes, but at the end of the day they're all Tzeentchian. There isn't any noise marine unit champions that are suddenly 'aspiring sorcerors' or whatever. I remember as well when merely giving someone the mark of tzeentch made them a sorc, but that's okay to me because even if they were 'aspiring' they were still more glorified than being a mere sergeant. I digress though.
Right, Aspiring Sorcerers were bound to the Chosen squads in 4e too. The problems being raised are two-fold right ? Lore respect and TT Respect. For lore despite their name being familiar to a certain rank it's more than plausible that any tier of Sorcerer has to start somewhere along the path. These are those initiate-level Sorcerers, who've only began to dabble and aren't anymore useful than their mundane brethren. You can be an Aspiring Sorcerer with a single spell because the 'aspirant' part merely implies intent. For TT respect: Sorry, I hate the Aspiring Sorcerer being a Tzeentch only thing. That was purely GW being too lazy to come up with another name for the Thousand Son's squad leaders so they poached one from a retired unit. Lame. I actually thought BHVR was taking the easy approach reusing the name again but to be fair they seem to be going along the earlier interpretations for the class The whole CSM Codex reeks of GW trying to broaden the army list to make it fit more Legions and renegade forces but it dumbed the whole thing down significantly. Again, and not to kiss EC's butt anymore, they're taking the right approach with completely forgoing TT cohesion and making their classes fit on the same tier.
