I like how you can just reply, and ignore everything said, then try to just say something else entirely on a dime so that you don't have to participate in what we were just talking about. Care to comment on the stuff I actually said in my last post piece by piece, or did you just want to keep saying, "No I'm not, you are!" but with more words?
Basically my point is you're a toxic cancer to the game and this is half of the issue with the Space Marines. Look at the way you got triggered and aggressive if you watched the live stream this morning you would have all the stats you need but you know knowing you you would just be like omg eldar op please nerf i'll just leave queue all the time cause all i care about is winning ad not playing with my fellow faction brothers and having "fun" even if i don't win...
Oh I'm a cancer now? Toxic? "You stood up for yourself, and now I feel bad, you must be a bad person" That's all I got out of that. Oh, I watch every twitch genius. If you're going to say I get on the forums and do nothing but call Eldar OP, without any idea about the facts, or mechanics, or bugs of the game. And that I never take part in discussions about Eldar and choose to remain ignorant about the problem and just close my eyes and ears and cry, you have another thing coming. Do yourself a favor. Compare the amount of messages on my profile link, with yours, and you think really hard on if I don't take part in discussions about Eldar on the forums. I'm nowhere near the kind of idiocy you're trying to shoot my way. If anything, and all things considered, I'd say its more likely you're acting like an eldar fanboy, then I'm acting like an ignorant hater. Obviously though, I didn't want to be the guy just calling you an eldar fanboy who just wants to cry about his faction. One, because most of us play ALL factions, which by the way I play all the factions, good job on the whole "this is the problem with the space marines..." thing, like somehow players MUST be segregated by faction and any problems with people on one faction must NEVER translate over to the others. So of course, LSM must have this toxic problem that could NEVER translate over to the Eldar. Two, I didn't want to be that dick who tried to invalidate your whole argument by just saying, "you're a biased fanboy". I wanted to argue your points, piece by piece, like they actually meant something. Not try to pull the rug out from under you with something so generic. Seriously, that would be like cheapening a great story by ending it with "and it was all a dream~". It basically takes any substance that may have been in what was said, and makes it cheap. But yes, I must be the cancer. Good thing you commented so often in the forums to help shape the game since 2014, really appreciate your input. PS: Again, I like the way you ignored everything in my last posts, to just say something else on a dime so you didn't have to participate in what was said. Are you going to do it again for this post? Maybe this time you can keep it short and just go, "No you are!"
I think you're both using way too many personal attacks and should probably rein it in and get back to the subject at hand. My opinion on the idea of dropping group when you see it's Eldar... Well, I exclusively play Eldar thus far, so I've been enjoying the easy wins and XP that ensue, and that easiness is great for my performance anxiety problems. But at the same time... in other games I've played I've been in situations where people don't like the map/opponent they got so they drop group instantly. So I know what it's like to be one of the people who stays. Normally the matchmaker would quickly find replacements to fill the group up, but unfortunately in Eternal Crusade load times can be pretty high so you'll likely be waiting a few minutes for replacements who'll stay. So it sucks for the people who choose to stick it out, as they're outnumbered for a while. At the same time, if Eldar versus LSM matches aren't fun for the LSM, I can't really expect them to stay and play through a game they know they're gonna hate. It's a game, it's supposed to be fun, and although winning isn't everything, if sticking it out isn't fun, why expect someone to want to do it? And unfortunately, it's a problem that actually makes itself worse. Because so many people drop the moment they see Eldar, LSM losses against Eldar climb, which leads to the people who stick it out noticing the higher loss rate and perhaps deciding to just drop group in those situations too. I think the ability to choose which section of the World Map you want fight in would completely solve the issue. Thus, if you don't want to fight Eldar as an LSM, you can choose to fight CSM or Orks instead and never face any Eldar. Meanwhile the people who queue up to fight Eldar all want to be there, so they aren't as likely to quit just because they're facing Eldar, as it's literally what they signed up for and not unexpected. And if we Eldar get long queues because no one wants to fight us... well, maybe we shouldn't have pressed that advantage quite so hard?
I remember when Warhammer online launched, the Destruction faction was completely overpowered, Witch Elves could mass-crowd control at will and insta-gib people, Magus could pull entiere groups through closed fortress gates to their doom, out of range from resurrection/heals. When this happened, two types of Order guilds formed, those that kept on fighting, despite the now obvious Destruction gear & Renown level advantage, and those who kept whining like babies, farming empty areas, away from the fight. When Destruction got nerfed, the guilds that fought kept fighting as they always did, with people realizing that Order classes such as Engineer and Bright Wizard were in fact, also overpowered. The guilds that avoided battle to farm free renown in empty zones kept being sub-par, easy to beat and shunned by both sides. If Eldars are the current Destruction from Warhammer online, keep fighting, bide your time and wait for the inevitable nerfs to come, but do not delude yourself thinking that only ONE faction has balance issues and always strive to gain battle experience. If you can beat people when their class/faction is better than yours, then you are all set for the day of reckoning. LSM is the only faction whose players, and even clan-premades, I witness rage-quitting battle en masse when they see an Eldar premade. CSM & Orks don't, even pugs, even when they get smashed to pieces. CSM & Orks also usually show a lot more tactical acumen and "guts" than your average LSM team, especially when it comes to offensively contesting points, ensuring vehicle control and what not. To give you an idea, I started playing Marine yesterday, my very first game was a disastrous Maggon game as attacker, getting stomped by Eldars in 5 minutes. You had about half a dozen devastators camping on the battlement, no apothecary and absolutely no vehicle control. Scorpions/Hawks infiltrated and farmed the Devas, Dragons were free to insta-melt any vehicle and point A remained uncontested the entiere match as lone melee specialists and tacs were mercilessly hunted down by warlocks/reaped/ganged by Avengers. I simply went "whatever" and farmed overconfident Eldar loners, grabbing two commendations with my Preset BolTac. (See here). In my gaming experience, players that ragequit like that never learn, they just find shelter in denial and the idea that everything is stacked against them in some kind of evil conspiracy, they will always gravitate around FotM weapons/classes or reroll because even when their faction do get buffed, their unwillingness to face a challenge beforehand deprived them of skill anyway and they lose regardless.
LSM can win against Eldar sometimes. I've lost to LSM on my Eldar a few times since launch. Sometimes Eldar teams just seem to have a complete and utter breakdown of common sense and sanity. You know those times, when you currently own no objectives, and the entire team not only isn't fighting at one objective or another to capture it, but isn't even anywhere near each other but are scattered individually across the entire map doing their own things. Eldar do that too. Also, frankly, NEVER give up until it's actually over. There is always hope. Even if there's no way for you to win, sometimes the enemy messes up or doesn't see something they should. My own personal moment when I realized never to give up in games was several years ago in the 40k tabletop game. It was my Space Marines and Sisters of Battle against my mom's Orks. She'd been completely slaughtering my army, and around turn 4, all I had left was a badly-damaged Scout Squad and Saint Celestine, up against a withering Boyz unit, a large, undamaged Boyz unit, 11 or so Lootas, a Big Mek with Shokk Attack Gun, and a Killa Kan with a Grotzooka. Over the next 3 turns, Celestine finished off one Boyz mob and rushed the other only to get killed by overwatch (basically defensive fire during a charge into melee). Meanwhile the Scout Squad was reduced to just one guy by turn 5, and he proceeeded to hide behind a nearby wall and take snap shots at enemies whenever he could, until the game ended two turns later. Doesn't sound impressive? I'll put it another way. In those two turns, he succeeded on at least 30 2+ cover saves. The odds of that are only around 0.4%. And because he lived through all of that, he was able to capture (via having hunkered down in a PERFECT spot between the wall and the objective) the one worth 4 points, which added together with everything else, put me 1 point ahead. I was ready to concede on turn 6 when Celestine died, because my Scout surviving that much oncoming fire seemed impossible. But I decided to let my mom have the satisfaction of tabling me and stuck it out. And I won. You can actually push your overall win rate slightly higher by never conceding defeat and playing until the end. Because every so often, what seems like certain defeat actually ends up being victory because something went wrong for the enemy instead of for you.
Eldar gameplay just looks exactly as bitchy as the idea I have of Eldars in the lore. Thus I sometimes cancel queue against them when I'm not in the mood for a hide and seek party.
As much as i would like to fight eldar cause of how much i hate them, i just cancel every queue for fights with them cause its really not any fun to fight them, theres too much wrong with them and as one guy said in my thread the recent "nerf" to them was just placebo. I'd like to fight eldar but it isn't happening till things are better.
