I agree on the shit talk thing, but mind you that Eldar players also shit talk losing teams after winning unfair games. Please remind those Eldar players about that too.
CSM still have a major advantage over LSM and especially Ork, but theirs is more due to the fact they have more of their class options readily available than LSM, whereas the fundamental structure of Eldar is out of balance. All of your classes win in melee given you don't make too many mistakes. Your mobility on the battlefield is unmatched. Your firepower is equivalent to ours, your health and toughness are equivalent to ours, and you are harder to aim at than any other race. I'm not saying that the solution is to nerf Eldar races, but something needs to be done for Ork and LSM to put everyone on a more even footing. Give us the ability to specialize ammo. Better/different standards than the ones we have. An actual AV class, not a devastator that has his AV equipment locked behind progression <cough>Techmarine</cough>. Orks should get a strength in numbers buff from the Waaaagh mechanic and the ability to loot other races' tech in battle. If that's where Eldar toughness is supposed to be, LSM, CSM, and Ork all need to have theirs raised. Eldar are meant to be swift and lethal, but you are glass cannons. Space Marines are unflinching and very difficult to put down, the brick wall the God-Emperor raised between humanity and extinction. CSM should be as hardy as LSM and be agents of Chaos that can bend the Warp to their will. Orks are the ceaseless ravaging horde that can believe a burned out tank will work so hard that it does. But right now the gameplay feels like badly written Eldar fan-fic where they are suddenly the pinnacle of technology and combat prowess
This most recent patch was a big step in the right direction. Eldar don't start with the RL. Nor does anyone else. The only AT "advantage" is now the FD... Which isn't bad at all.
Eldar should be slowed down and get their hit points reduced drastically for, yes, according to lore their guns and htH SPECIALISTS are deadly, but... when I empty half a magazine into an eldar and he doen't even flich... Right now the only fun games are SM versus Orks. CSM and eldar, well, I try to change to match immediately.
Well, I deployed 2 full magazines and half of a smart shuriken pistol vs a chaos marine with power fist and he killed me in 2 hits (It's Ok, it´s a power fist) with 100% shields (not Ok). And no, was no cover as I basically was shooting him while he was doing the hit animations. :< That dude was hard.
I just remove Eldar from the equation entirely, soon as I see Eldar are in the match I leave. No honor in fighting them in this state. Don't know how you live with yourselves, I refuse to play Eldar even though I love striking scorpion because of the cheese factor lol.
You know that the game is math based, right? That the devs know precisely how many shots it takes to down an eldar, or a space marine, or an ork? Which do you think is more likely: a). that the game has a bug where Eldar have two or three times as much health as they should and nobody but you noticed it, or b). you missed half of the shots that you thought were hits and they lived because you didn't do enough damage.
I'd be more sympathetic if it weren't for in my experience when Chaos got Wargear options first the Eldar were by far the worst sports post game, win or lose. We had a few people here or there doing similar, but it was mostly GG's. Eldar were mostly salt. There's also the strange l33tism trend that started before there was even a game to play. We've certainly seen this creep into Chaos, though this happened as the game progressed and many of us believed our PuGs were preforming well in both advantageous and disadvantaged patches. Eldar were talking about being better since before there was evidence. That said, it is annoying to be playing a faction because it's you're favorite and getting blanket accusations that you're only playing it because it may currently be OP, I usually hold my tongue even when I'm frustrated and it's obvious exploits, like when we had a whole lot of Jump Fists during the one hit kill fast attack patch. But I can also understand the frustration when certain outspoken elitists are the guys who main Dark Reaper for example. Let's just hope that the next balance patch does the trick. Not really inclined to be the stalwart defender when I never recall seeing it from the other side
I see that some people have been reading this thread in terms of SM tactics. Saw several 5 man Predators and some concerted effort with SBs and Bolters. Harder fights for sure, but untill it's 15 on 15 MYST vs SM guild it's stilll pug stomping at some level. Even so, much better.
