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Issues vs Eldar

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by DrDooManiC, Sep 18, 2016.

  1. Yes the banshee who is flanking and attacking from behind as well the space marines who were mostly HBs as well. I saw some jump assaults but a bunch of them kept trying to res their teammates instead of dealing with the howling banshee's first. I am mostly seeing just bad teamwork and play, and if you noticed the banshee is apart of a clan so obviously they are working together and experienced at the game.

    Edit: also 4mins in you can see him go toe to toe with a shield bro for a good solid minute
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  2. Valentine Iyan Firebrand

    It sounds like lag, but I will say there has been wonky stuff going on with being one-shot by things that don't seem like they would even as Eldar.

    Also apparently smart bolt pistols counter eldar still so just take one of those and win every one on one fight =/

    I agree our vehicles don't make sense though lmao, the falcon is silly useless and the serpent is so strong!
  3. Would you prefer the lore version of a Banshee sword where your armor means nothing or perhaps the TT version where common space marine die in 1 hit cause you get wounded?
  4. Fiesty_Won Fiesty_Won First Blood!

    I disagree....I have regularly swung 2 times with light and heavy attacks. Then followed up with a full clip of smart pistol. This same series of attacks kills orks always, csm/lsm most of the time.

    And the outcome is the elf was still alive. How...why, dafuq?
  5. BaronXIII Arkhona Vanguard

    Don't stoop to that level Ashy, you're better than that. I know you're just discussing but, this is kind of just asking for it. I mean you know someone is going to reply, "Do we get a lore accurate Bolter that kills Banshees in one hit?" And then it just goes round and round in stupid circles. Let alone the 100 posts you'll get of people taking shots at you.

    Now, I know that you feel many people need to change up their tactics, which makes sense as the Eldar have a different style of play than the other 3 factions. Seems legit to me.

    But, I am curious as to what you feel about the Eldar durability though. As I've said, I kind of feel they are a bit too durable for their advantages. They are effectively as tough as a marine unit, but faster, with a smaller hitbox, and in my opinion better weapons (at least at the start, which is fine I guess). Instead of fighting an Eldar, I feel like I'm fighting full fledged marines who are just faster than me, with a smaller hitbox.

    Real talk here, how do you feel about their durability? Do you think it needs to be higher, the same, possibly a little bit lower, maybe alot lower? I don't get to discuss with Eldar players too often (as it usually falls into unconstructive BS depending on who it is), but I usually have some good talks with you, so I kind of want your input/start a discussion with you.
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  6. MacBeth MacBeth Well-Known Member

    Come on Asheru, the TT and lore, is ally to no one, especially the Eldar. If we were to bring those into this, the Eldar armor outside of the SS, FD and DR would crumple under bolter fire, and even then those armors are only as good as the standard armor of Space marines.

    Not to mention each of the standard Ork units in this game would be literal cannon fodder to the LSM, Eldar and CSM. Gameplay wise we'd need 100 Ork boyz to the 50 of everyone else. Things would make more sense if each Ork player was a Nob.
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  7. Dhan Dhan Preacher

    I think touching their mobility would destroy Eldar and make them sink even lower than Orkz. I do believe a good change would be to nerf their Health. That way you reward good Eldar that avoid enough to create their own durability via Armor and Stamina management and you also reward everyone else for having good aim or being good at melee.

    If you touch mobility, toughness or armor you just destroy the Eldar playstyle.
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  8. Ill get to the discussion in a moment if you want you can PM me about it but Bolters are AP 5. They dont beat Aspect Armor for 1 hit kills. (This isnt inculding specialist ammo of course)
  9. Hey guys, I have a question. How much faster are Eldar actually animation wise? From my experience playing SM and Eldar I don't get the feeling that the Eldar weapons swing faster.

    But that is subjective, so has anyone actually objectively compared it? I read in the opening of the post, that Eldar classes revocer faster from clangs, does anyone have proof for this?
  10. I agree with this.

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