The thing is.. if i join a Clan, i expect VOIP. Why? Because it is an optional group i join, with people that i should like to play with, in theory, and want to do so in an organized fashion. If i and the Clan do not gel well, i leave the Clan. When i que for a PUG, i am getting matched up with anyone... and i can't just Opt out of a PUG without stopping to play the game. So no, i do not want to have everyone with a mike. VOIP coordination beats lack of VOIP coordination, but that doesn't mean i want to be matched up with the guy that things its funny to make fart noises all match long, while a 3rd person things they should flood the channel with their music of choice, while 2 guys are berating each other, because pressing a button to run their mouth is easier than having to stop to type to berate others. I can do without that, thank you very much. If i want that, i'll find a Clan that gives me that verbal abuse and nonsense. And i certainly don't want to spend a good junk of my time muting people, either. Yes, premades stomp PUGs because of VOIP, that doesn't mean i want to VOIP with PUGs.