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Is it time we talked about Chaos yet?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Gazrick, Sep 30, 2016.

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Do CSM need a nerf somewhere?

  1. Yes, big time!

  2. Yes but only a little bit, it's pretty close.

  3. No, they are totally balanced!

  4. If anything they need a buff!

  5. This question is stupid, just like Chaos Spawn oh god no...naaaaargggharrrblllasdlasssss

  6. Buff the other factions you fool!

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  1. kharnzor kharnzor Arkhona Vanguard

    Uplift the orks and LSM's to a competative lvl.
    Tune the eldar more, maybe a slight health nerf and remove some of the i frames so they dont interfere with dbash
  2. Lerdoc Katitof Well-Known Member

    You tried Tzeentch heal yet?
    The only difference between force sword and Witchblade is skin.
  3. Krage Krage Prefectus

    Remove snap shots and force PC to have full charge to fire with the arc mod only no straight shots...then it can stay as a powerful AOE anti everything weapon that rains death on people when left alone. Although when they are solo or engaged in anything shorter than mid-long range they are going to be gimped which is fair for that level of hurt.

    Snap shots make them too viable solo for being a specialized area of denial/group smasher weapon and the charge time is a wee bit fast for those straight line shots.
  4. Valentine Iyan Firebrand

    Did they ever put in the slaneesh heal?
  5. Can CSM answer this for me, can a sorcerer channel healing into a target that is already at full health? I seem to see a lot of heavies breaching rooms with the healing beam already applied. I'm not sure if this is because they've received damage I haven't seen or they can have the healing channeled in case they receive damage.
  6. Krage Krage Prefectus

    Yes they can without it draining their power. Preemptively leashing your target is really nice...unless its changed since launch.
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  7. Levo LevoBearer Arkhona Vanguard

    of course it does. Your topic was about "how about a CSM nerf"?
    We just established that "no way". We effectively fully dealt with the topic.

    There are lots of other threads regarding the other factions, so I would not repeat the improvement ideas regarding Orks and SMs here.
  8. Gazrick Gazrick Well-Known Member

    I don't think 16 - 19 being "they are balanced" is establishing "no way" myself.

    Also I'm pretty sure it's universally agreed that changes need to happen to the PlasCann? Is Autocannon also on the list?
  9. Levo LevoBearer Arkhona Vanguard

    PC is not CSM specific. BTW IMHO we are not using it as much as it is being used against us, so go ahead, nerf yourself :)
    AC: personally I think it is not a big deal. You need to be really skilled with it to make any kind of difference. And even then, you need to brace it on a solid object to be really accurate.
    I have both AC and HB, and I usually prefer HB due to its versatility. I have never been in a game which was decided by ACs.

    That being said, I'm okay with the fine-tuning of the mentioned few weapons, as I know my personal experience does not count as research.
    Bottom line: the CSM faction itself definitely does not warrant a nerf
  10. Lerdoc Katitof Well-Known Member

    Ages ago.

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