Apothecary can't wield all his shit in one time, as any other. Apothecary share his duties with his brothers, not dedicated specialist as eldar warlock is. Apoth does not have buff-nade, only heal-nade (like stationary "embolden"). While gunfight is happening apothecary can buff only mates in the same cover. You don't want run too much under cross fire, but you can try. You can prepare mates to assault, but this is not brief time process. Warlock with Jinx is targeter for gunteam (most effective fire managment). Warlock with Protect provide EHP bust at the forward line of gunfire from behind (counter skulls, if you dont know). Warlock with Enchance provide permanent boost to keep combat capabilities of gunteams in line (unique force, but really need to keep eldar forces in line, bolter+EHP compensation). Every one of warlock can provide mass heal\revive. Back to theme of thread: No. =) Most of Eldar missed fact that Eldar is dedicated specialist concept, so they need all their ranks on the battlefield. SM most about universality, so they really can combine tactical loadouts with part of other classes in time of need. You can't compare apothecary with warlock because they have totally different functions, except of heal capability.
Because it's true that there is no other way that in front of your friend... You're playing stupid to give an argument... Doesn't counter, both reduce the efficiency of the other one now (before a bug made the skull completely nullifying Protect and then applied 30% dmg received malus.) lowering the Protect to 20% protection. And for the mass revive at the cost of channeling while you can completely afk or shot during a heal nade, but that's ok, that's asymmetrical balance for you. Enhance is far from permanent and it's Protect or Enhance. And if he play Enhance, he has a choice, stay behind to reset Enhance and Heal or try to go in to help in fight. While the Apoth, throw nade, participate under cover and can full heal near instantly an ally in need... If the nade doesn't already do it... It's not like the nade had a lower durability than her timer, meaning that an area can be covered with a nade h24. *Yea but you can destroy it...*, if you're dumb enough to throw it in the clear yes, and even, it's so small that the smallest cover is enough, not like the BIG ASS GREEN canister the Orks have. You're just being the devil's lawyer by trying to justify why a support with the greatest healing efficiency also have one if not the best assault weapon in same time. If the aoe healing was channeling maybe it would not be a problem, but here it's an afk heal nade which even rez with a high rate.
While this is true that DAs will be better at what they do (hunting infantry by playing peak-a-boo), the Slaaneshi Traitor will be more of an "All-rounder", more able to adapt to situations, thanks to the diversity of loadouts they have access to. On one-on-one, a DA will probably have the advantage, but when it comes to react quickly to a situation like "guys we need this tank blown up", a Slaaneshi Traitor can say "Roger, I have my melta bomb" where a DA will just sit tight on a point or redeploy to grab a Fire Dragon (who WILL be better at AV than a Slaaneshi Traitor). In the midst of combat, a Slaaneshi will adapt more easily (if he built his loadout to adapt), hence being a better all-rounder. Technically more practical. Not more efficient, but more practical. Then again, that's my opinion.
Dedicated specialist is not mean best specialist. You still need support all your troops and devs still need to keep things in balance. Even more, only eldar exarchs comparable with SM, by lore. When it comes to react quickly to a situaton, a PLAYER just pick FD loadout, who have melta by default. Most of times Slaaneshi Traitor need redeploy to get his meltabomb, because PLAYER have it only in tactical AV loadout, with his meltagun. Things going to be practical only when going to be efficient enough. In other cases it will not used at all. So, DA more efficient and practical.
Well... I'm not sure I understand your point. Most players don't pick Melta bomb on their traitor and imo, that's likely one of the worst error they could do. I mean, LSM tacticals have a servoskull that is pretty much unremovable... But the melta bomb allows you to actually react when a tank comes near IF you have buddies with you that have the same reasoning. two melta bombs and poof, no tank... The lack of meltabombs on tactical players may be one of the reasons LSM and CSM lose games to lack of vehicle control. I mean, if you are an Eldar, and hear that one tank needs to be taken care of, you don't think, you deploy a Fire Dragon (or a Dark Reaper if you like to have it slow). As a Marine (Loyalist or Chaos), you have the opportunity to carry around some AV shit.... why don't you take it? I don't know.
CSM have AV Traitor preset with meltabomb, but most of newbies don't use it because of more "killing people" oriented play style. AP Traitor preset has a FRAG for this purpose =) More experienced players just have melta loadout, because it is more efficient and practical. You will use AV preset (or something like that) only if you have mate and you go to hunt tanks. Eldar use FD\WS combo.... much more efficient and practical.
Yeah, but that's still a slaaneshi Traitor marine... On a separate loadout. Okay. Side note, the WS/FD combo can very well be done with a Rhino, or even better, with a predator, since they actually pose a threat against Eldar vehicles. But then, to the main subject what differentiate the Slaaneshi Traitor marine from the Avenger? The Armour Regen delay, and the ability to take Higher Pen weapons like the plasma gun. The Magnificent combi-bolter is also a unique weapon, thing Eldar don't have in place of the TLSC. (no unique TLSC, although one red-ish model can be seen on some of Noah's screenshots)... So that's that. The avenger on the other hand has a thinner frame, lower health, higher armour regen delay, and access to the Avenger's duty... Slaaneshi traitor have access to Krak grenades, to deal consistent damage to tanks, or melta bombs. Avenger don't have AV possibilities.
1. Apoth can't regenerate nades. 2. Embolden is not chanel spell and provide heal over time to all affected units. 3. You don't need shury for warlock, because warlock can buff damage for others. 10 mates buffed - 200% of his damage for one warlock. Much more powerful then one boltgun. 5 mates buffed - warlock armed well. 4. You can use two warlocks to provide 70% damage mitigation bonus for every affected unit. This is bunch of veterans without any actually presented elites. You're just being the devil's lawyer...
Eldar do it solo. Tanks not always allowed. Armour Regen delay not negligible disadvantage, you can't keep fighting. Win or die. But "yeah, more EHP". Armor regen more useful for gunfight. Armory isn't part of this because of lore and asymmetric balance. Reapers exist (RP) to kill hard targets, even machinery. I really can't tell about specific unique weapons because i haven't it. MB in this part you are right. We already have Ace Dakka in game... If you tell about AV capabilities - compare it with FD, not with DA
