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Iron Warriors and Iron Hands Similarities and Differences

Discussion in 'Chaos Space Marines' started by nealbulldozer, Mar 20, 2016.

  1. Besides being loyalists and traitors, and different primarchs, what these legions more alike than one would think. Both are mechanical warriors, but how far do each one goes?
  2. Bentusi16 Bentusi16 Prefectus

    Actually the Iron Warriors aren't that obsessed with bionics. They have more then other legions more because they disdain corruption (mutations) then they think cybernetics are superior.
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  3. RageScreama RageScreama Well-Known Member

    Better question is to compare iron warriors to imperial fist. Master of the siege vs master of defense.
  4. Traxius Rhuul Warsmith0602 Arkhona Vanguard

    The Iron Hands have this inherent 'itch' to replace their flesh with bionics and machinery. They share the same ethos as the Mechanicus, but to an entirely obsessive level. As Iron Hands gain more experience and age, the urge grows stronger and they eventually begin to lose their humanity entirely. It's actually very well outlined in the book Wrath of Iron, which shows the conflict between the younger and older Iron Hands.

    The Iron Warriors, like @Bentusi16 said, have less of a compulsion to replace their organic limbs with bionics and more from disdain for the touch of chaos in general. The average Iron Warrior is uneasy with the idea of the unpredictable and uncontrollable 'gifts' of Chaos, in preference for more reliable and stable machine parts. This often puts the Iron Warriors at odds with the Word Bearers, given their pragmatism tends to clash with the Word Bearer's zealotry.

    In general, I would say the Iron Hands are actually in a more tragic way than the Iron Warriors fall from grace. The direction his legion went is exactly what Ferrus Manus wanted to prevent, and since his death, they've only gotten much, much worse about their obsession with the machine. They are mastered by their own faults, where the Iron Warriors are simply pragmatists with a need for vindication.

    They're both absolutely fucking evil in the way they treat lesser humans, though. In that department, they both use mortals as fodder, both often equally as badly as the other. The only real difference in terms of their moral doctrines is that one fights to defend the Imperium, and the other fights to destroy it.
  5. Daemonkin Daemonkin Active Member

    Iron warriors are better then the bannana-boys on attack and just as good as on defense if not better, just ask Dorn how his Iron cage went..

    As for topic on hand, The Iron Warriors and Iron Hands technological similarities are only really noticed in passing. Both Utilize bionics to a heavy degree but for vastly differing reasons, Iron hands see it as a way to improve themselves in a similar way to the mechanicum, whereas Iron warriors see technology as a means to an ends, and a much more trust worthy object than any mutation.

    Both groups have extensive technological knowledge however with Iron hands being known to work fairly often with the mechanicum, and many Iron Warriors prior to the heresy doing the same. They likely see it very different though as Iron Hands seem to see technology as something to improve upon themselves whilst Iron Warriors see it as a tool(like most things).
  6. Galen Galen Arkhona Vanguard

    Why and how are they evil?any sources on this?
  7. Iron Warriors often used the Imperial Army just to test how strong their opponent is or to weaken their supplies or lure em out before going in themselves. This granted them the name Corpse Grinders amongst regular troops. Lesser human life is was expendable to a point that Horrus only allowed convicted criminals and such to be asigned to the Iron Warriors.
  8. Galen Galen Arkhona Vanguard

    Thats tactics!Nothing wrong with that!
  9. I know right but try to explain that to a whimpy soldier.
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  10. Galen Galen Arkhona Vanguard

    The funny part is that most legions used the IG in a similar manner,though there were exceptions.

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